Nancy Fraser on Cannibal Capitalism

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[nadjajohansson]

This woman sings sweet music to my ears.

[waltershink]

Very interesting show.
Please get this band back together soon!

[tinoyb]

Finally, someone who relates growth and capitalism to the trashing of the planet! In all starts with the planet, folks. Externalities will end humanity.

[carycunningham]

Trying to prove greed is wrong to sociopaths in power who will never accept the explanation. Right then.

[mattf]

For some corporate leaders and entrepreneurs, profit and success are more of a personal development goal & ideology than what determines the daily & quality of life of ordinary people.

[pattirockgarden]

Very good interview & discussion! Loved this! 👏👏👏👏

[MrDayinthepark]

Capitalism has been trying to eat me alive, ever since 2010. I wish I was kidding.

[jonathankammer]

There is SO MUCH good here. It’s all worthy except that neither Professor Fraser nor Mr. Escow seem to have learned the lessons regarding really existing socialism that Michael Parenti taught so well. None the less, BRAVO. I want to read Fraser now.

[clive-live]

I look forward to using this book at the end or afterwards in Marxist Sociology: Beyond Marx and Engles ~ Human Nature: the problems with labour and the renewal of socialism
Clive Burgess

2014 2024 updated

[mjleger]

At around (8:00) what Eskow is likely referring to with his reference to a pre-Copernican social viewpoint ( concentric circles with the economic forces of capitalism at the centre and around it "cannibalized" layers not recognized as full realities, like care work, family relations, nature, etc ) is ... possibly ... a reference to the image I produced and posted on my Blog of Public Secrets (August 15, 2022), which has class as the sun, surrounded by the planets of nationality, religion, gender, ethnicity, sexuality, ability, age, indigeneity and ecology. But like most others Eskow is not going to invite me to talk about this on his show. To begin with, I imply that class is central to socialist critique, not exclusive, along the lines of Ellen Meiksins Wood. Nothing of what I say suggests that the planet layers are not recognized as full realities. Capitalists recognize workers as full realities - fully exploited realities. The terms here are the concrete reality of capitalism and the abstract universality of identities. Nothing is left out of the picture and the idea of "widening the frame" replaces critical concepts with a not very helpful metaphor. And the point of Wood, on the origins of capitalism, is that you can have colonialism under feudal relations but that this is not the same as colonialism under capitalist relations, which in this discussion get mulched into one big bad historical process. Monetizing care work, as is now proposed by pseudo-Marxist intersectionalists, is not going to make capitalism less exploitative and more caring. This is an anti-Marxist, anti-socialist idea that has a spontaneous appeal based in postwar petty bourgeois ideology. Likewise, saying that capitalism is racialized and gendered does not make race and gender more fully recognized or more fully real, simply more fully subsumed by post-Fordist capitalism. You can't replace capitalism with something better by giving "recognition" to identity groups. Capitalists give wages to workers, not recognition. You get recognition in the consumer market, from politicians, in Hollywood films and in university courses. These issues, including Fraser's work on recognition and redistribution, are addressed in my forthcoming guide to the class and identity debate. As for the idea that a book is not an individual product, that's a hypostatization, not an observation. As for the idea that communist countries were more environmentally damaging than capitalist countries, that issue has been dismissed by recent research. Engels' dialectics of nature addressed this issue before state communism came along. Eskow is welcome to invite me onto his show if he wants to ask me rather than someone else about my work, which is not yet available in print.

[clive-live]

Subjectivity to Means cultural biological and physical
Production and Reproduction
Activities to Relationships state class family
Reproduction or transformation
Colin and Clive Burgess

[jonas]

' feminism of the 1 percent ' boom ! can we just build a statue for this lady, and move on to a form of social justice we can all relate to ?

[MrDXRamirez]

Defining productive and unproductive labor is vital for capitalism since it is only the exchange for productive labor that satisfies one of the conditions for the re-conversion of surplus-value into capital. For example, Trump is a representative of capital engaged in the process of self-expansion, he performs a productive function. His function consists in the direction and the exploitation of productive labor. In contrast, to all those who have no immediate and active relationship to their production, Trump’s class is the productive class of society. As the director of the labor-process he, as a capitalist, performs productive labor in the sense that his labor is involved in the total process that is realized in his product.

[markuspfeifer]

It’s hilarious that a Nancy Faeser has become minister of internal affairs in Germany… whenever I hear her talk about protests, I kinda expect her saying: „Faesors on stun!“

[AudioPervert]

this return to innocence or simplicity is not possible... time moves like an arrow in one direction. we cannot change that,
yet at best divest from this culture - the dominant culture - what she says is cannibalism. sure it is, but divest from it. not just always talk talk