The Lord's Supper is a Sacrifice (Orthodoxy vs. Protestantism)

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[christopherpavesi]

The Prophecy of Malachias 1:11 For from the rising of the sun even to the going down, my name is great among the Gentiles, and in every place there is sacrifice, and there is offered to my name a clean oblation: for my name is great among the Gentiles, saith the Lord of hosts.

[jamesb]

Thank you seraphim!!

It just hit me like a ton of bricks after seeing this short. The connection between 1 Corinthians 10:16-21 and Hebrews 13:10. I’ve been questioning and praying about the eucharist and The Holy Spirit has sure used this short to make the connection.

It’s not easy coming from a protestant upbringing to make these connections and trying to wrestle through the difference in doctrines. Your videos as well as others are sure helpful in shining light on these topics.

[craigsherman]

Man I can not wait until the East and West are United again. I pray it happens in my lifetime.

[Echoesofwhispers]

Paul is in the process of contrasting the Lord’s communion table with the devil’s communion table. The Lord’s communion table is a symbol of the essence of Christianity. We cannot have it both ways. We must choose one or the other, for the Lord does not tolerate spiritual adultery.

[Echoesofwhispers]

18Observe Israel after the flesh: Are not those who eat of the sacrifices partakers of the altar? 19What am I saying then? That an idol is anything, or what is offered to idols is anything?

The first warning had to do with the inconsistency of idol worship and worship of God. Verses 19 to 22 make up the second warning of this chapter – a warning about participating in temple feasts of pagans. Demons are behind all pagan religious feasts.
10:18
Observe Israel after the flesh:
Paul wanted the Corinthians to look at “Israel after the flesh, ” that is, the physical nation Israel.
Are not those who eat of the sacrifices partakers of the altar?
Those Israelites who ate sacrifices of the altar were in solidarity or identity with the altar by eating the sacrifices. Jews who ate sacrifices off the altar were one with the altar. Christians who eat at the altar express unity with Christ and each other. Christians who eat sacrifices offered to pagan gods are one with those gods. There is an intimate relationship between us and the food we eat because the food becomes part of us. The altar in the Old Testament speaks of the cross in the New Testament. Anyone who partakes of the altar shares in the results of the cross – eternal salvation. There is only one altar or one way of salvation.
Those who participate in other religions violate the object of their faith – the slain Lord Jesus Christ. The glory always goes to Jesus Christ in Christianity. Eating is a non-meritorious system of appropriation because there is no merit in faith itself. There is no value of faith in itself; the value lives in the object of our faith. The Lord’s supper/table is a memorial to our salvation. In the Old Testament, there was a lamb slain, and in the New Testament, the Lamb of God was slain.
10:19
What am I saying then? That an idol is anything, or what is offered to idols is anything?
The Corinthians argued for going to pagan feasts, so Paul now gives his arguments against implied worship of idols this involves. Sacrifice to idols was not worship of genuine gods because they were just material objects of wood or stone. Pagan gods have no supernatural power, but they represent supernatural powers. Whatever is offered to idols represents something symbolically.
PRINCIPLE:
Christianity is mutually exclusive.
APPLICATION:
Idolatry conflicts with our identity in Christ and so incurs the wrath of God. We live out our identity in Christ, so if we identify with something other than Him, then we will live that kind of life. The Christian life and the life of demons are mutually exclusive. No Christian can participate in demon activity with impunity.
Christianity cannot be a mere religious hobby to us. No Christian can dip his flag or lower his colors by accommodating what he believes to another religion. Christians are all one big loaf of bread in unity with the Lord Jesus. We cannot inject other religious beliefs into that relationship. Compromise of truth and credence to other religions always weakens our faith. If we compromise the truth, we had better check our insurance policy to see if it is up to date. From bibleversecommentary.com

[christersvanstrom]

On the other hand it is not called altar in the greek church, but trapeza - table. That is more in conjunction with a sabbath gathering than a temple feast.

[CurelomTheory]

“The gospel of our Lord Jesus Christ is a covenant between God and his people. … When baptized by an authorized servant of God, we covenant to do God’s will and to obey his commandments. … By partaking of the Sacrament we renew all covenants entered into with the Lord and pledge ourselves to take upon us the name of his Son, to always remember him and keep his commandments”

It's a sacrifice insomuch as we re-commit to God's covenants. The sacrifices in the Old Testament were supposed to be a "Type and a shadow" of Christ.

[bigsarge]

Love it! praying for a unified Church ❤. Jesus of Nazareth is King of Kings!

[OrthodoxReach]

How in the world do you make these? they're awesome

[TheSibler]

SCRIPTURE IS THE STANDARD !
GODS WORD NEVER CHANGES !

[mertonhirsch]

Problem is that it's not just another sacrifice. It's the only real, perfect sacrifice. The bloody sacrifices of paganism and even the old covenant were fallen types of the perfect archetypal sacrifice. The west tries to put God into our terms (earthly courts, earthly sacrifices, earthly debts and atonement) rather than to put those things into God's terms.

[Averyaveragedeskin]

1st Corinthians 10 is clearly Paul contrasting the pagans sacrifice to the true worship of Jesus in the eucharist in the offering of the sacrifice.

[gbush]

I think some prots would say it's a sacrifice. Lutherans use that language.

[TimothyAdams-lnjr]

So Christ, having been offered once to bear the sins of many...Hebrews 4.16

[Lugal]

Most are Protestants are wrong. However, some are not. I'm a Lutheran, and we acknowledge that it is a sacrifice.

However, we do not think it is the sacrifice of Christ offered again, rather, like the Israelites who ate after the sacrifice made, so also we eat the sacrifice after it had been made on Calvary.

It is a participation *in* the sacrifice, not an offering.

[Anglo-ton]

Bro I am a lutheran and we believe Christ is present in the Eucharist

[CaptainEarls]

I have yet to meet a protestant that says this, and I have been surrounded by nothing but protestants my entire life🤷‍♂️

[ShermanMays-fwko]

The Bible says to do in remembrance so I do it in remembrance thanks 🙏

[SOX-]

So, can the wine also be water that is blessed because the Rock was Christ in the same Chapter?