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【CHAT】 Ina Takobout Takotime

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[foopygoopy]

Tentai was actually hilarious in the chat

[ethanh]

Honestly, I agree with Ina on both fronts.

[konsolebox]

I like how she without much of a thought used the word "mostly", almost hinting that she understands the issue on a developer level.

[vladimirprostakov]

God she sounds so tired. I hope she will rest well on her break

[NeuronActivation]

Ina: "Some people shouldn't see not safe for work yet, lets keep it family friendly"

Takodachis: "B-But what about your back?"

[Porcuman]

The one guy who suggested "Pinas" as nsfw art tag

[jarvy]

I think what a lot of people are missing is there's more to art than the pretty picture that comes out at the end. It's like if someone bakes you a cake from scratch rather than buying a pre-made one from a store. Sure, they followed a recipe, and they're both cakes, they may even be identical cakes, but you understand that you attach a higher emotional value to one over the other.
The fanart tags are, in spirit, meant to be a showcase for people who have put in that hard work and discipline, it's not simply just a place where pretty pictures go. I'd agree that AI art has no place there.

[Chamadzero]

Since the back incident, the takos were out of control for a long time and her nsfw art skyrocketed. So its nice to keep it in check now. Since the art tag its kinda a reflect of the character that is getting tagged.

[XNihili]

Art is the intersection between imagination and skills. You have artisans who are full skills and use less imagination. Then you have the AI « artists » who have no real skills but most don’t even have imagination and are happy to show whatever the AI give them.

[NICKY_OM_]

For an artist like Ina I understand 100% what she feel about AI art.
So I just hope the takodachis around will respect her choice.

[aizielcm]

Personally I don't want to see AI art on her art tag but I don't mind seeing AI art on my bird app feed, but they should atleast put a tag that it is an AI art. Im willing to accept AI art as an art but what annoys me about AI art are the ones who are posting it and claiming it as their own then calling themselves as an artist

[Graatand]

I really appreciate Ina’s issues with AI art being based in fact (i.e. it’s *trained* on art that used without the artist’s consent) rather than misunderstanding (“it just mashes different bits of art together!”)

It’s fine to take issue with AI art, and we do need to have a discussion of the ethics of it going forward because as Ina says it’s not something that’s going to go away. And to that end, it’s especially important that the basic technical details aren’t misrepresented — which they sadly all too often are.

[Alllex]

Considering everything around AI imagery and Kim Jung Gi's death, it doesn't surprise me most artists aren't ok with it.

[telldo]

Personal thought: I don't mind AI art as long it's for personal use (like making portraits for D&D characters) but should be ethically and technically avoided for professional use.

[xsoultillerx]

i feel like at this point most vtubers should just have an art tag for AI art specifically to avoid some sort of streisand effect down the line.

also i'm kind of suprised the programmers/developers of these generators don't think to watermark these AI generated pictures in order to avoid this type of concern over "art theft" from ever happening as it's an easily avoided controversy that only brings unwanted negative attention to their project.

[jajathenewking]

In my opinion everyone should have 3 art tags to satisfy the community. 1 for the regular art anything normal and fun, 2 for the NSFW ones for the spice people, and 3 for Ai art for those who just want to post what the Ai did.
I know not everyone will be respectful to post on what they should but I don't have any other ideas.

[lainling]

An additional point to the AI art thing, tangential to the ethical bits, is that AI art is simply much faster to produce- think up a prompt and you technically get like 10 or so works per minute. I think Pixiv is currently experiencing volumes of AI art significantly outnumbering human creations. So part of the problem would be AI art simply drowning out original human works, so it'd be preferrable to keep it separated if only just for ease of use for everyone browsing.

[coxinhalover]

ai generated images are really fascinating but it shouldn't be called art whatsoever

[ScoutBostonAnonStuds]

"Quality of the input affects the quality of the output"

I think AI can have the potential to be a decent tool. The question should not be about the existence of the Ai tool, but rather it should be about the proper ownership of the Ai Input.

[alvinreinaldy]

kind of questioning the "it's not copying it's learning from it."
ye,
if the AI only have 1 picture in it's database, it's just gonna copy it.
some artist gonna try to make differences,