Tesla FSD Update Brings My BEST Cybertruck Drive Yet! 13.2.5.1

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I’ve had the same experience with FSD driving in the snow here in Ohio. Typically my experience is it will try to accelerate too hard from a stop sign, start slipping, and then start beeping and make me take over. I agree they need to change the way FSD drives in the snow a lot before it will be good.

joshsmith
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Each update to FSD seems to have it's own personality and even seems to have bad and good days. I use it probably 90% of the time driving around town. It's just so much more relaxing and most interventions are just preference for me or "mild interventions" of stepping on the gas. /turns on FSD, grabs coffee, and looks out the window.

Stahl
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Personally I don't think FSD needs a "snow mode" that we change manually. Tesla is trying to get FSD to do this type of stuff automatically. An indicator that it's in a "snow mode" would be great. I feel FSD 13.2.2 drives much more cautiously in the snowy winter roads vs summer. It drives slower, gives more following distance, speeding up and slowing down is smoother. I feel FSD recognizes the snow and drives accordingly. This is obviously my opinion, but I use FSD about 300kms (186 miles) per week minimum. Is it perfect, NO, but it's getting better. If the car slides it will scream and get me to take over. Still needs improvement. Great video' as always Chris! Thanks!

TeslaTechNow
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13:25 Did you notice the human driver directly behind you made the exact same error and fixed it in the exact same way? 😂

jonathanmelhuish
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I think the main issue of winter driving is the cameras becoming occluded from dried salt.

richyt
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I just skipped from13.2.4 to 13.2.6 today! Finally fixed that line-hugging behavior in the cybertruck!

JonVB-tl
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I had a MY loaner last week with HW3 and older FSD 12.x (not 12.6). I have to say that I did not appreciate just how much better 13.2.x is. I know there are regressions, but if you ever doubt that FSD overall is improving then try driving an old version. It was really eye opening.

AdoptEarlyTech
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I use FSD almost all the time, with exception of parking lots. The only time I intervene is to go faster.

phxazcraig
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Please keep doing your objective, non-fanboy assessment of FSD! Often when using FSD on my MX, I wonder how FSD in a Cybercab would have handled a situation that required my intervention. FSD is NOT ready for robo vehicles!

railstuff
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Don’t worry about the “haters” mate 😊 I (and I am sure many others) watch you because you are balanced and fair 😊

I mean, I am pretty sceptical of FSD and I feel you sometimes give it too much credit. However, combine that with the fact that some people feel you are being too hard on it proves to me that your reporting is right in the middle 😊

bear
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Been watching you for a while and I think you make some really good points.

I agree with most of what you say. Snow handling could be better for sure. Mine did fine but seemed a tad aggressive as well. I let it push the limits and it was actually fine - but it was concerning for sure.

I live on the outskirts of town in Nebraska. Because of that, perhaps unsurprisingly, I find spots where FSD has issues. I definitely can't envision unsupervised FSD at ALL here yet. I CAN see what you mentioned where you are allowed to glance at your phone - but still need to be there in case there is an issue.

Even in a far less traveled area (we don't even have a Tesla dealership) FSD is mostly amazing. The main issue out here is when the maps are totally wrong sometimes it gets confused and does silly things. Most of them are not harmful but would look very strange to the outside observer and you might even get pulled over lol

alureon
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your assessment of the problems is very real. it's a great tool, but to be unsupervised it's going to have to solve many nagging problems which remain.

dlmckimm
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4:57 the main and important cameras have a huge wiper to clean them, best possible for cars. The side cameras might not be as clean, but that should be more than enough to make a safe emergency stop (based on the car still remembering conditions to its right to pull over). So we are already talking about a case that both side cameras and the back camera suddenly fail to provide any actionable input.

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So glad you posted today, watching this awesome video on my cruise balcony in Turks and Caicos right now lol perfect way to start this beautiful day

carlosgamez
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Great information Chris. I'm a 2018 Model X (HW3) owner who was unhappy with FSD's performance to the point where I felt it was potentially dangerous. Sold the X and just purchased a 2025 Model Y with a 30 day FSD trial (ver 13.2.2). My pick up location was 100 miles from home but I used FSD for essentially the entire drive home. That included driving through the city of San Francisco, on Highways with frequent construction zones, very confusing interchanges and even undivided road Emergency Vehicle pull over and resume. That drive and every drive since have been intervention free and very enjoyable. Self parking at destinations seems the biggest challenge but on the highway and around town it is 👍👍

rmkep
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Happy Birthday Stephanie! 🎂🎁 (and nice video Chris, I enjoy your commentary)

georgepelton
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The issue about FSD not working in the winter is that there are some places that have snow over half the year, so those people are basically left out. Up in the UP of Michigan, we get snow from Thanksgiving through the middle of may. Yet, there are many places going all in on electric infrastructure. Luckily, we mostly only use sand here instead of salt, so that may not be as big of an issue.

dkashvideos
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I think the early build of major version simply require less confidence to apply control. Then, as they get fewer interventions, they raise the required confidence level. making it more hesitant.
Then, they get more interventions to train on, raising the model's overall confidence level. Rince, Repeat.

maxpelletier
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Yes winter tires and sometimes snow chains are needed

sxmolin
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I agree with your observaions on Snow. Traction is needed to move, but it your like to stop the driver/car can't lock the tires... definition of a sled. There may be a significant liabilty change for "unsupervised". I think it becomes "Level 3 Self-driving" and possibly FSD becomes a liablity for Tesla. It's a BIG step. Keep up the work. We all "test" to make it better--it's an iterative process.

aljohnson