Retro Gaming has Changed...

From vintage hardware, game collecting, emulation, crts and upscalers - Retro Gaming has changed over the years. Let's talk about it.

TimeStamps:

00:00 - 01:21 - Intro
01:22 - 04:21 - Emulation over the years
04:22 - 07:46 - Is it worth buying original hardware ?
07:47 - 09:41 - FPGA
09:42 - 12:45 - CRTs and Upscalers
12:46 - 16:41 - Game Collecting
16:42 - 19:42 - The Community
19:43 - 22:03 - Remakes, Remasters and Ports
22:04 - 24:39 - Summary and Conclusion

#retrogaming

[TheMetalicebox]

The Ps3 is as old today as the Genesis was when the Ps3 was released. Wild.

[xizarrg]

My biggest frustration with "game collecting" is the people who got into it as investment opportunities, rather than people just buying the games to play them. Recent years (basically since covid) have seen prices skyrocket, especially with the influx of grading systems.

[mordesku]

My brain can't accept that PS3 and Xbox 360 are considered retro now. But I agree. The retro scene has changed. I would say it is more commercial. Back in the old days, it was mainly a hobbyist thing, and now major emulators are like companies with their patreons getting paid monthly. I'm not saying it is a bad thing; we wouldn't get such good emulators without this model.

[picsled]

I think the problem so many collectors fall into is, well.. they're just collecting. It's not surprising so many people end up with walls of games they want to get rid of. I'm still just as into getting these games as I was when I was a kid, but I think the reason why is because I don't want all of them; not even close. I just want the games I personally loved and want to play again repeatedly, but in tangible form, and I want them in the best condition I can find them in. That's it. If most collectors out there stuck to something closer to that, I think there would be a lot less regret in the end.

[pancake-gu]

The thing I love about your channel is that to me, all of your videos are like sitting down with the cool uncle to nerd out about something were both really passionate about.
Please keep making videos for as long as you enjoy making them, I enjoy them so much.

[UGDEP]

One thing that's always stuck out to me is the focus on nostalgia in retro gaming. As a younger person, playing retro games is about exploring the history of an art form I enjoy. Its like going back and watching classic films or books. The art that cuts through history usually does so for a reason, and going back and playing these older games you hear people rave about is just fun, engaging and gives you a greater appreciation for the medium.

[TheFaygoNinja]

Buying retro hardware stopped being fun when prices skyrocketed a few years ago. Before that I used to find crazy good deals at thrift stores, but now they're all marked up to match online prices 💔

[vixwashere]

The Xbox 360 turns 20 next year and the PS3 the year after that. That's so mindblowing.

[RetroRepairGuy]

I own quite a few retro consoles and restored many of them. And while I always considered myself a "purist" when it comes to retro gaming, I recently tried Batocera on a micro PC and it does make it so much easier to not only access my collection but it makes it easier for me to share it with my kids and switch between "game consoles" without the fuss of having all these systems plugged in. Also I find it helps me preserve the original hardware and not have my kids destroy them as I did with my friends as a teen. With the bonus of having it displayed on a 65" TV in the living room.

[odinsplaygrounds]

A lot that you're talking about I would call the difference between retro GAMING and retro COLLECTING. I used to collect back in the mid to late 2000s. I had to move abroad eventually, and in this move sold off most and began my full deep dive into emulation and setting up my machine as a retro gaming device with a proper front end. After doing this step, I realized I didn't really care that much for all the physical hardware and physical games. It took up a massive amount of space and prices were going up a lot. Not only is it more sleek, but I even have access to more systems than I ever did. With the current state of things, it's no wonder most people get into the gaming part, rather than the collecting part.

[tlhIngan]

The reason old hardware collecting has decreased is because the prices have shot up immensely. It used to be you could get a working Commodore 64 for $100 and broken ones were scrap prices. These days, a broken one is going for over $100, a working one over $200. Old PCs of the 386/486 vintage could be had under $100, now they're asking $300+ for them. And these are the common systems. Rarer systems like Amigas and Neo-Geo? Unless you are particularly rich, you're looking at $1000+ easily on the used market in reasonable working condition. If you manage to find one that's really good, they're $2000+ or $3000 easily. It's just not worth doing to spend all that money on it. And the sad part is, you know that stuff is just going to e-waste in the end because the sellers want too much money and the buyers aren't buying. So instead of say, reducing the price, it doesn't move and it just gets scrapped. Everyone saw the $1.2 million dollar Super Martio Bros game and saw dollar signs and assumed there's money to be made.

[lopezjose]

well there's also the fact that around 2021, the prices of original hardware skyrocketed

[SomeOrangeCat]

We're fast approaching a time when original hardware stops being a viable option. Old consoles are failing. The supply of replacement parts and new-old stock is drying up. Many of the older disc-based consoles are being modded to use SD card readers, because getting the replacement lasers for the disc drives is becoming more expensive and harder to come by. CRTs are fast becoming a super rare luxury for people who demand the "authentic" experience. Emulation, be it software or FPGA, *is* the future.

[ElectronShepherdLLC]

Thank you for the kind shoutout, MVG!! I'm so glad to be able to support this awesome community.

[thingsiplay]

Romhacks, Mods and Translations

Editing games and releasing patches is one of my favorite stuff that comes out of emulation in general. Sure editing games would be possible without emulation, but nowhere near popular or easy to use. I love trying out Romhacks that patches problems in old games, or add new levels and graphics, or changes the language from Japanese to English.

It's like DLCs for old Roms.

[niospartan]

The worst change is the cost. Gamecube games use to be pretty affordable not to long ago, now anything thats not shovelware is at least $100. At that cost a emulation can possibly save thousands of dollars to play just one game library.

[sega-bitost]

I enjoy contributing to the retro gaming community by uploading quality OST(s) for the Segs Genesis library. It's a simple hobby that's grown on me & seems to make others happy, its great.

[TheSmart-CasualGamer]

I used to watch videos where people would say "I got an NES for 30 quid!" and whenever I'd see one in the real world, you'd just see NESs for sale with no controllers, cables, or games and they would usually be over £200.

[BienSwinginbase]

I still have PS3 and that old school stuff still works nicely, bossman.

[Joe-otbo]

Out of all the channels on this platform, MVG is the one that I instantly search for new videos when I hop on. I've said it before, a new video coming out is the equivalent of the teacher deciding to put on Bill Nye in class. I used this mans emulators on ogxbox long before this channel. What a guy.