How Do We Make Sense of Suffering? | Dr. Jordan Peterson & Fr. Dave Pivonka | Franciscan University

Dr. Jordan Peterson and Fr. Dave Pivonka, TOR, discuss the meaning of suffering—and our response—in this excerpt from their conversation at Franciscan University of Steubenville.

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[duncansh]

Excellent comments by Fr. Dave. I came here for JBP but I'm leaving with some wisdom from the father as well. Very good.

[iu]

Dr. Jordan Peterson & Fr. Dave Pivonka Thank you!! God bless you both. I remember every day that I need to pick up my cross and walk with Jesus.

[polibot]

Having Fr Dave Pivonka and Dr Jordan Peterson is a dream! I’m a great admirer of both of them. Great discussion

[jeremieplourde]

"Establish what's good in the midst of what isn't"

[joeypuvel]

Wonderful conversation.

I have always found it compelling that suffering should be taken in humility. Given that God has given us free will, because without it we could not participate in the divine image, we could not freely love. And given that with this free will comes the ability to choose not to love God necessarily, and therefore offend him. Would it not then be a great cruelty for God NOT to allow suffering? We would be in a state of death and separation from God, and we wouldn’t even know it. It would be like having a body that has no symptoms even though we have contracted a deadly disease.

Glory to God for permitting consequences for our actions. This is mercy.

[jenniemay]

Such an insightful and truthful conversation. I love Dr. Peterson for his courage. Thanks for this. Such wonderful intentions at the end 🙏

[tjackharrison]

Greatly appreciate this, gentleman. thank you.

[vivapinataisbomb]

Great clip. Father Dave making Dr Peterson think for a moment!
Where can I watch the full interview? Thank you & praise be to God.