The REAL reason Germany doesn't want Tesla to make 1 million EV's

The REAL reason Germany doesn't want Tesla to make 1 million EV's

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[gilesfitzherbert]

IMO the German Unions can either get behind Tesla and have some jobs or fight/disrupt Tesla and eventually lose all auto manufacturing jobs to China. The old adage of 'change or die' applies very well to this situation. From a consumer point of view the $25k Tesla can't come quickly enough.

[stevehayward]

I have been involved in automation in the engineering industry for over 40 years. Automation does not lead to job losses but increases the amount of jobs that have more value. Instead of all day putting a bolt in a hole, thats a job a machine can do, more people are needed in the maintenance/tooling of robots and other ancillary jobs, also it increase the need for people to write programs to enable these machines to do a job.
Instead of humans doing menial jobs, we can now be freed to do jobs where we can use our brains and imagination, far more fulfilling jobs.

[eoinyoneill]

The workers council in Germany, by trying to protect the workers slows down innovation. I worked for 5 years in a German multinational and all the innovation was being done outside of Germany. Inside German the speed of change was hampered and slow which is going to harm them in the long run.

[sunnyhughes]

Elon should make it obvious that there are many other countries in the EU that would welcome tesla

[MrAlanfalk]

Talk about a country shoting itself in the foot. Afterwards they will problably complain about limping !

[andyfreeze]

whilst i think slashing worker numbers is harsh, the auto industry is bloated with under achievers. Tesla flagged EVs 15 yrs ago. So they have themselves to blame for being obstinate idiots. as for less workers, thats something for society to work out, not the role of industry and thats a separate agenda altogether

[overful]

This is the information/knowledge age. The employee has been taken out of the asset column and placed in the liability column. Get used to it. This isn't going away.

[dougmartin]

Tesla’s plan increases the employee count from 10, 000 up to 22, 000.

The union concern is not automation but the move of union jobs from struggling OEM’s with their unionized workforce over to the growing but non-unionized Tesla factory.

[sisvc]

Unions just create another layer of bureaucracy and bureaucracy is intrinsically anti-progress.

[sflxn]

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[jamesthompson]

Think it's bad in Germany? Imagine the trouble Tesla would experience in France! It would be insane to build there.

But Tesla should probably threaten to build in France (or more realistically in Spain (close to solar power) or the Netherlands (a better labour market).

Message to Germany should be: you don't want to see us increase production in Germany? We're going to increase production elsewhere. Won't stop scaling production - but Germany will lose ANY benefit.

[thomassimmer]

Unions represent their members just like businesses represent their shareholders and politicians represent their constituents. Each of these groups uses government to protect its own interests, often in conflict with the common good and its own long-term benefit. After all, they are made up of people whose stake is time-limited. Easy to see from a distance--harder from up-close.

[unclefatbloke]

The Unions are probably the MAIN reason why VW, Ford, GM et al have been so inflexible over the last 30 years!
The unions are led by people whose heads are still in the 1930s when business owners WERE basically 'slave' owners, and needed union protections.
But those times are LONG gone, and businesses have known for a long time that happier staff are more productive and motivated = greater chance of business success!
That is the biggest reason Musk decided early on to not have unions having any say in his companies!

[finned]

The activists complained about water usage in Berlin factory. Less workers means less use of the toilet and drinking water. The complaints are ridiculous.

[briangasser]

I find it ironic when German car makers come to the US to build cars/trucks, they are located in SC and AL, which are right to work states with low unionization. German OEMs only give lip service to the benefit of unions/work councils when their legacy operations demand it.

[juliahello]

People are consumers as well as workers. If transportation becomes half the cost because of automation (factory automation and autonomous driving) all 8 billion people will benefit. If automation is prevented, a few million will have to find other careers. I think we can do the math and figure out what benefits people more. 200 years ago 95% of people were farmers, toiling in the fields. People didn’t have much more than a house, some farm animals, and one set of clothes. Automation came and took the jobs of 95% of those farmers. Nobody thinks that was a bad thing.

[Mrbfgray]

Not that unions give a crap about the general welfare and economy but Tesla is the best hope for future German auto manufacturing.

[aanii]

Automation increases quality. People make mistakes.

[RWBHere]

There's one very simple and obvious fact: Tesla don't _have_ to make cars in Germany. 

Would the unions be happier if they closed down the Berlin factory, laid off their 10, 000+ workforce and imported their cars from other countries instead? The cars will sell just as well in Germany as they do already, maybe even more quickly, but Germany will lose the already substantial export revenue that it is enjoying right now. That income will become larger still, if Tesla is allowed to expand. 

Also remember that far more than the 10, 000 employees are earning a decent salary, because of the increasing need for supplies of raw materials and many of the components in each vehicle that they make. It's also important to remember that people have to design, build, program and maintain every robot and associated car construction hardware which Tesla uses.

[theeverythingchannelyt]

Look what happened at YELLOW here in the states. 22, 000 union jobs lost.