Two CIA Spies Debate Torture

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He's more than happy to violate oath and conscience. That's a dark psychological paradigm for a person who is supposed to be inherently for the people.

brandonboulton
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I can never look at Bustamante the same after this episode. 😮

millenialsmom
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You saw the devil come out of mister man bun in this one, that was fucked up man

Bumbaclartios
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I get reality side that Andrew sits on but he's much too ok with the perspective that is citizens are nothing more than animals on a farm for harvest. I don't think you get to help the machine that does that to us and ditch off to another country to avoid the consequences

jackkuehneman
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People will say anything when given so as the best option to preserve their comfort.

It is sad, and no amount of coersed or stolen information should be admissible.

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The more i hear from agency men the less i like them. First they no longer distinguish between americans and the rest of the world. They only distinguish between agency and everyone else.

jakek
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Kiriakou is spot on. The other guy is a finagler

merlepatterson
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I just noticed Bustamante is missing teeth. Guy is sketch yo

xdxfrpp
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AB is 100% a bad faith dude who is purely self interested

Luiiciano
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Showed exactly what and how he and his colleagues think

Esch_atton
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There's no "we" about it. I am me. I don't choose a "we" group. I make my own decisions.

rubydragonrider
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2 people here. 1 that is still loyal to the cia, the other ia not. Both chose their own path.

Theartofruin
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If they stop a terror attack because info gained from torture, don’t even tell us we were saved we aren’t grateful anyways

OrangeApeOutdoors
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It is nuts - be at least have boundaries

mangographics
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kiriakou really believes in American values.

bbconrad
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I've been tortured in plain sight by the CIA for nearly 20 years. Can't stop it because of a insurgency. It's a horrible life

susanchristineknisely
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Doesn't it remind you of a certain guy who keeps telling everyone he knows there is corruption because he is the best at it...and you should vote for him?

h.l.malazan
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The legality is, yer enemies dgaf... Guys a traitor, imo

rossmacnab
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John has lost touch with reality reality is we do not live in a morally perfect world no matter how much we try and must bend in order to attain what may be the only available form of success at the time or current moment and to try to play the game of life in any other way is complete naivety

LordKLT