Goodbye Sony Cameras?

I wanted to explain exactly why I haven't used any of my Sony Cameras in over a month now..

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Chapters:
00:00 - I'm using the camera that "Gets the Shot"
02:10 - Main shots vs pretty shots
02:51 - Difference 1. Taller footage
05:23 - 2. Shoot 6k for $2000 😲
06:10 - 3. I miss the G-Masters
06:53 - 4. The QoL bundle
07:54 - 5. Ultimate IRL Streams
08:56 - 6. Easiest firmware updates ever
09:45 - Biggest trade-off

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Description tags, yo: Lumix, Sony, S5ii, S5iiX, Panasonic, 6k, 8k A7Siii, FX3, A1, Full Frame

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#Camera #Lumix #Senpai

[Senpai]

What camera are you currently using and what's your dream camera?

[stubbyninja_]

Gah Dawg, it's so nice seeing videos that ACTUALLY talk about the small stuff. Not just 'it looks good'.

[DocFUNKist]

The best intro I heard in years... that's called being fair and honest and not sounding PAID!!!! Well done.

[TMacGamer]

I don't always watch your videos just for the actual subject matter, but I look at how you shoot your videos. Even when your video is about something I might not be interested in, you make the subject matter more interesting. Not sure if anyone has ever told you that before, but I wanted to throw that out there. From the shooting style to the editing, your videos are always well done, entertaining & very clean.

[LightrifyClips]

I am so glad to see and hear people shining light on this specific series of cameras. I ordered a Lumix S5 II X myself, even! It is so good that it made me want to get back into photography and videography. It was kind of tough for me to afford and even if I won't be able to pay its costs in the long run since it's mostly a hobby and I barely made any money from photography, it was certainly the motivation to keep going. A forgotten passion has been rekindled once more.

[NintyPrime]

Thank you for this video Harris. So I have been looking into "upgrading" cameras for awhile for my studio for a couple years and have been slowly saving towards some hefty purchases. I say "upgrade" because of course I'm still going to use the old camera. I want multiple angles on my streams and even when I am recording a news video, it would be nice to not have to move my entire camera setup to get a second angle - I can just have it recording the whole time, and switch it up. Or direct record to the computer, hit a button on my video switcher and boom.

For two straight summers have been renting cameras during the summer for one of the shows we do to play around with different cameras and for the longest time, I felt like I needed to go sony. I have experience using an old Lumix G7 that my children broke years ago, and I naturally stuck with the line I knew and went with the Lumix G9. 10m limitations aside on recording, the full HDMI port directly to my mac allowed unlimited local recording, which is my use case 99% of the time.

But it CAN overheat in specific situations, and my lord - I didn't even realize how bad the autofocus was compared to other cameras until I rented some sony cameras for one of my summer shows the last two years. I used the Sony A1 and the Sony Alpha &s Mark 3 I believe or whatever it was called the last two summers, and INSTANTLY the auto focus was one of the biggest things I saw as a massive improvement. Yeah, the G line of lenses was also really nice, but that auto focus. I didn't know it could be that good having only used lumix.

It was so good, I decided to start saving. And you have to save A LOT when you're switching camera lines. It's not just the body - you need to get all new lenses too. So even though I have 3 lumix lenses, they are useless on the Sony. Suddenly I was looking at a $3500 sony lense to go with a nearly $4k body, and it really, really adds up. But that autofocus was a game changer. I can look away from the camera and the sony wouldn't just forget I am there. It was amazing.

But, again, saving up for it is hard as a solo content creator. You start thinking of a 10 grand purchase (and that's just to get one lense with it) and wonder what you are doing with your life. Is that really the right purchase to step up your videos?

You introduced me to this camera and I have since watched other reviews on it. Not only can I use the lenses I already have (though, I may get a new F16 lense anyways, so I have one for each camera), the two main concerns (overheating, which was still a slight issue on the sony cameras) and the autofocus have been completely corrected. Then you throw in the open gate so I have more options in fixing footage in post let alone making shorts - and that I can do this all in 6k giving me even more options to output a full 4k final video without issues - honestly... this is a godsend.

Then it's just 2k, which isn't even that much more than I dropped on the G9 at the time. This goes from a 10k purchase to upgrade to literally just a 2k one to use lenses I already have, throw in maybe another $500 for a lense - and now I have saved 7500 on what I was going to spend and saving towards.

And now I stay within the same camera line to use equipment I already have, the G9 can become an alternate angle shot or used for top down where it's focus is just fine on objects?

Thanks Harris. I may lose a few features on the more expensive Sony cameras that are nice, but for my purposes of news videos, discusion videos, shorts, and streams? This is now the one to get. Maybe even a second one to complete the 3 camera setup I want.

Damn.

[popularzero]

Definitely a good take. Panasonic Cameras are underrated outside of small portions of the community. I used my GH3 until last year when I shifted to mostly photography, and swapped to Fuji for the convenience of customizable film simulations that I rarely have to take into lightroom. Definitely would switch to an SII or SIIX if I was going to start doing any professional or semi-pro video work again.

[henryeowens]

Great video. The LUMIX cameras seem to be the first ones using modern connectivity and quality of life features. It makes Canon and Sony seem like they’re lagging behind.

Traditional photography is decreasing as AI improves. Most of the videos people consume are made in this type of informal format. If Sony and Canon don’t release comparable new cameras soon LUMIX will take a big chunk of the market share.

[nathanielfoo]

OMG since i was a teenager, I remember a photographer i followed said, "The best camera is the one that's with you" which is basically what Harris said

[hmmmmm]

i've been wanting to upgrade for a while now from my old APS-C Nikon 5200 but price was a massive factor and i always shop for the 'best bang for buck' i am not brand loyal in the slightest so videos like this is what i turn to for advice. after watching your video, i pulled the trigger on an DC-S5iiX. i have my mind blown every time i take a photo or video. i'm sure i would've felt the same way quality wise whichever system i went with. but as you very potently stated here, there is no accounting for the massive price to performace this system offers me. i am now looking at other lenses and already bought the 85m f1.8 last night.

thank you for making unbiased content like this. i truly feel i have made the right choice and will be happy with it going forward.

[cfrazer]

I think it is only a matter of time for more lens options. It would make sense for Panasonic to see if the camera sales are good and than develope lens that people want.

[andokewl]

Not a full frame, but Fuji Xh2s also can record Open Gate. Just saying, since you said Lumix is the only one. But as a Sony user, i would gravitate more to Lumix, thanks to your video!

[mrmowersemporium]

Then there is me… Fujifilm x100v. Not in the market for another camera, but this was a great video. Always learning.

[dartthewarrior]

I really enjoy the ergonomics of the majesty in your background!!

[SebsDuran]

The “and always….happy streaming.” You are extending it by a millisecond each time and I’m here for it bro

[oldmatttv]

The Lumix S5II is really hard to beat for value, whichever way you look at it. But really, especially so on video. For Photos, I'd still go for Sony (though I'm on Lumix myself still even as a photo main), and the Lumix full frame ecosystem is still a bit behind. But for value, it's pretty insane what the Lumix offers on the video side of things.

[cmerr]

Harris. Great content! This one is for whoever edited this video and I'm only commenting because I know you guys care about the absolute tiniest details.

The counting sound effect at :29 sounds an awful lot like a door knock if you're not actively watching. I had this video playing and got up to go to the bathroom and was really curious who was knocking on my front door. Took me a second to play the video back and realize what happened.

Small detail and 97% my own stupid fault, but being judicious about natural sound effects could up your game .001%.

[WaleighWallace]

I would LOVE a comparison video between ~$2000 cameras. This vs the ZV-E1 for instance, but with a couple others for good measure. How good is the auto focus? What are the supported picture profiles? What lenses would you recommend and their cost? Do cheaper cameras (creators might already have) have the same lens compatibility?

Basically a YouTuber’s first big camera video.

I have a ZV-E10. Being able to use the same lenses I’ve bought for it is a huge selling point for the ZV-E1. But 6K open gate.

[matthieuzglurg]

uuuh maybe I missed something but the S5II is ABSOLUTELY NOT the only camera that shoots open gate.

so there is also the original S5, the GH6 and GH5 that also do that

and outside of Lumix there is the Fujifilm X-H2S and the X-S20 that both do 6.2K Open gate recording. Only difference being that the X-H2S is a stacked sensor with a much faster readout speed and the X-S2 is a more "normal" BSI sensor

also worth noting that if they don't have open gate, cameras like the Canon R5, Sony A1, Sony A7RV and probably most importantly Nikon Z9 and Z8 all have 8K recording, so even if you don't have open gate you can still use the versatility of such a large resolution for reframing etc. Just use a wider lens basically.

Sony, Canon and Nikon still need to jump on that bandwagon, but I'm pretty sure this is either going to be added though fimware to some cameras (FX3 maybe? or even Nikon Z9/8?) or be a part of the next iterations (A9III and A1II are most likely coming late 2023/ before Q3 2024)

also I feel like the price discussion about cameras was WAYY too simplified and did not represent the whole picture, basically only speaking of video resolution and megapixels. If the A1 is 6.5k because it can shoot 8K video and 50MP stills, why is the A7RV only 3.9k while it still shoots 8K video but also has 61MP stills?

A1 is expensive because it has a stacked sensor that is super fast and allow for 30fps stills shooting for profesionnals. A7RV is capped at 10fps. A7S3 is a try from sony to make a fast sensor without relying on using a stacked one (which is much more expensive), so they made a 48MP sensor binned to a 2x2 pixel array giving a 12MP image, improving both the readout speed (not that far from the A1), and increased dynamic range thanks to the pixel binning. The focus of the A7S3 and all cameras using that same sensor (think FX3, FX6, ZV-E1) is to do 4K video, and do it well. that's it.

If you compae that to the Lumix S5II : the readout speed on the S5's sensor is MUCH slower meaning that in both 6K open gate and in standard 4K video, you'll have a lot more rolling shutter in your image than if you were using either a faster sensor (like the A7SIII/FX3) or a stacked one (A1 / Z8 / Z9). It's okay if you don't do too much panning shots, but if you do it's distracting and noticeable

about the L mount alliance: it's not that 3rd party lens makers are considered 1st party. Otherise brands like Tamron and Samyang could release their lenses in the L mount as well. The L mount alliance is a closed ecosystem between Leica, Panasonic/Lumix and Sigma. The mount was originally created by Leica for their SL cameras (L stands for Leica), and they built an alliance with a long time partner (Panasonic with which they have made camera collabs in the past, and still do) and Sigma which could bring more affordable lenses in the ecosystem. But don't forget Sigma also makes cameras (FP and FP-L anyone?) and is a legitimate part of the L mount alliance. But having access to all th Sigma Art glass is indeed a perk if you don't care about the video optimized Lumix lenses or the Leica lenses that would require you to sell a kidney.

The shutter angle, it's pretty easy to understand : basically 180 degrees shutter angle is twice your framerate, 90 degrees shutter angle is exactly your framerate. As long as you select correctly your shutter speed, almost all brands have introduced 180 degrees shutter angles for almost every framerate (that generally just required to add 1/48s shutter speed to shoot 24fps)

I do agree that doing the firmware update right through the app is pretty nice. It will never beat the firmware through SD card that Fujifilm does imho (basically just format a card, drop the firmware on it, put that in the camera, turn it on while pressing the disp/back button and follow the steps. No app, no software on the computer and it's done in a minute or so)

From what I've seen if you want a 6K open gate video with faster framerates and stuff for 4K, well you have the Fujifilm X-H2S that is around the same price as the S5II, has 4K60 without a crop, 4K120 with a slight crop, 6.2K open gate and the ability to screw up a fan for cooling. Also shoots 40fps 26MP stills, and has a stacked sensor. But now you have to compromise the fact that it's an APS-C camera, depends where your priorities are I guess

[BEATCUTTERZMUSIC]

Is this better then the Sony FX 3 to just put on a tripod and record your YouTube show?