The REAL Reason Smash Rejected Them

In this video I examine the strangest rejected content from Smash Ultimate. Some alternate costumes, spirits and music tracks seem so simple to include but mysteriously got cut...and why? Let's try to find the real reasons.

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[ericriley]

4:35 For the record the reason why Ms. Pac-Man isn't an alt in Smash Bros. is indeed the legal problems concerning Ms. Pac-Man's ownership between Namco and GCC that's been ongoing since 2008. As for the reason why Ms. Pac-Man could still appear in the Pac-Land stage in Smash but has been phased out in rereleases of Pac-Land is because believe-it-or-not the already iffy legal situation with Ms. Pac-Man actually became even worse than they already were when GCC sold their Ms. Pac-Man ip. rights to AtGames in 2019.

[scarffoxandfriends]

13:25 The issue with this argument is the fact the repeated color was yoshi's default. It makes more sense to cut an alternative color for looking too similar than a default. And to support this logic, Builder Mario replaced the Wario style alt for Mario. So it wasn't just a White alt replacing a white alt, but also the yellow alt replaced the yellow alt.

[EtheRenard]

I regret that they didn't push the 8 color swap limit, for this game

[marcelopaulo]

I really like the crafted world costume but I don't think that he should replace Black Yoshi.

[aBean_y]

I like the logic behind this argument and it’s fun to dive into this, but I really just think they had to take out an alt to promote their new game and they just picked black yoshi on a whim because they had to remove one

[Ashvee-from-Thewildguess]

Unpopular Opinion but I actually like how Crafted Yoshi looks! I absolutely hate how the Black Yoshi was removed for it don’t get me wrong, and I wish it didn’t have to get cut, But I do like how the crafted Yoshi looks

[nathanblackburn]

While I get that Crafted Yoshi is referencing the more recent game I think Yarn Yoshi would have been better with the more obvious yarn pattern plus there's a pink and a light blue coloured one to prevent repeating green again

[UltraNurture]

7:25 I was a little surprised when Pichu didn’t get a Plusle and Minun costume.

[mohamedmukassabi]

I was surprised to see Mario losing his Fire Flower costume, but I quickly got used to it.

[jonathanalvarez-lopez]

25:01 Mewtwo is not the only character who got cut from Brawl. Doctor Mario and Roy were cut from Brawl as well. Fun Fact: These 3 characters went unused in Brawl.

[GardevoirBoy]

Daisy literally had to be Peach's tomboyish doppelganger in Ultimate because she shares the same body type as Peach. Daisy was made to be Peach's tomboyish semi-clone anyway so it made sense why she became Peach's Echo Fighter.

[rothgars]

maybe for the next smash game, they can have more than just 8 skins per character? that way some of them get the skins they deserve to get, and some get even more cool things, even if some of them have to be more basic. maybe they could re add fire mario, or re add black yoshi, and make felts for all of them?

[WitherofEarth]

i can actually understand why pikachu, pichu, and even jigglypuff dont have their shinies as alts in smash bros. it's because those 3 pokémon in particular have shinies that look way too similar to their normal colors to begin with, so it'd be really hard to tell them apart in the chaos that is smash bros, hence why their alts are all different hats/accessories instead

as for why the other pokemon didn't get THEIR shinies as alts? your guess is honestly as good as mine. closest ones we ever got were mewtwo incineroar and greninja... that's it

ig maybe squirtle and ivysaur's shinies could also be deemed as too similar to their normal colors, but we could've easily gotten charizard's shiny at least

[azurewarrior]

Here's some clarification for Ms. Pac-Man.

Namco *does* still own the rights to her game and her as a character. But AtGames (yeah, them) owns the royalty rights her game, meaning that even though Namco owns her and her game they have to pay royalties to AtGames if she makes an appearance or her game gets rereleased, and given the debacle of how AtGames got her royalty rights in the first place Namco isn't all too keen on paying them anything. Which is why as of now she's unfortunately being phased out.

[Avatarzillus]

Black Yoshi: folk I didn’t make because they didn’t have my call of duty, My kfc, My kool aid and my watermelons

[ChaseyBOIDude]

I thought Black Yoshi was removed because Nintendo thought it was racist in a way

EDIT: thanks for the likes, so close to 500, after 500 let’s try to get to 1K

[jeremyriley]

TBH, when talking about SML's Black Yoshi, it was not because we can't play as that version, it was possible people said he was removed because in SML, despite being popular, Black Yoshi could be seen as a negative African-American stereotype (as the series has him depicted as a criminal who acts like a "gangsta" and is seen doing illegal acts like killing people for touching his Call of Duty games). In fact, this was one of the reasons why Logan got demonetized and eventually sent a cease-and-desist from Nintendo, forcing him to stop using Mario plush toys and resort to puppets of his own making.

However, the real reason Black Yoshi was replaced with Wooly Yoshi is that Nintendo wanted to add the Wooly Yoshi skin so they can get people to buy Yoshi's Wooly World.

[aidn]

As someone who watched SML from 2015-2021 I’d say that the theory that they were the reason black Yoshi was rejected kinda makes sense… on paper. Because if that were true then they 100% knew about them and why send a cease and desist in 2021 when he was far more controversial in 2017-2018, at least in the mainstream media.

[DarkNight-bcxk]

I hate that SSBU limits the number of costumes to 8 when they could create just more space.

[modermousevofthegoldendeer]

While I liked the black Yoshi alt I feel like it was replaced purely because it was in the 8th costume slot.