vtc gear rattle fix

this will help fix the vtc gear rattle issued in most people were having no matter what k series motor you have. Here is a link to a new company that is making new vtc spring

[victorv]

Thank you. It worked for me for Honda 2.4 engine with vtc in place.
The only thing I would recommend for those who is planning to work on 2.4 Honda, to get a TS-30H (5 point star bit), you going need it to remove 5 bolts on vtc gear to get to the spring.

[KRISTIANFIGUEROA]

I just got this rattle for the first time this morning on cold start at 220k miles. I’m gonna try this

[GerTelligent]

I had a P0011, and P1651, with loud rattling, can’t thank you enough! I saved $1800, I own a 2009 Honda Accord EXL with 88k miles, I went to Home Depot, bought 5 M60x30 bolts ($6.28), orange thread lock ($2.99), reused my original spring just stretched it and reinsert with new Home Depot screws with thread lock. Now all the codes went away and drives perfect again! The dealer was going to charge me for a new timing belt replacement, new actuator, new tensioner, whole new PZEV VVT, and oil change for $1800 without tax. Took me 30 minutes, Boom! Drove it and it was fine. It’s been 2 weeks now, drives normal and no rattling while start up and no rattling while driving! ❤❤❤❤

[michaelmachiavelli]

Great men make a big difference, and help anyone in the world with car problems, god bless you

[WagsAutomotive]

If you stretch it, it'll just lose its tension again. Your best bet is to find a heavier spring. If you can't find that, place some washers under the spring to take up space, and restore the spring tension.

[AmritBanks]

Just did this today on my 2012 CRV. Easy enough to do if you have the right tools (1.5hrs). It did not completely stop the rattle, but significantly reduced how loud it was. I just bought a variety pack of compression springs and found one that fit and was longer/stiffer as stretching the spring didn't work for me. Maybe with a new oil change and some liqui-moly mos2 will stop it altogether. No check engine lights, still able to engage VTEC.

Timing Chain looked fine and tight as well.

Note: For the CRV, you need a 5 point T30 bit, not a 6 point like in Civics.

Thank you man!

[Kdubz_Auto_HVAC]

Dude i almost didnt watch the video because i thought it was gonna be bullshit but this is quite impressive man i actually did it on my FG2 and the cold start rattle is gone dude thank you so much!!! The best thing was how easy it was all you gotta do is take the valve cover off and thats it took me 45 mins bro thank you again.

Im still going to install a new VTC cam gear when i do my cams but this is a great intirim.

[frankz]

Thanks Tony, great to know info - it’s commonly thought that the vtc gear is defective, no matter which brand you get, people replace many times, even replacing a stretched timing chain - good thinking, $ saving 👍

[timboylen]

Tim Boylan from Nova Scotia Canada. I really appreciate what you're showing me I could never understand why you had to replace the whole gear if it was only a spring problem which everybody was telling me or the information looked like that's what it was thank you very much I really appreciate this it will save me a pile of money

[slimjim]

Wow! What a relief to know that this could fix the rattle when I start my car. I thought it was oil starvation so I quit using Honda oil filter and switched to K&N filter but noise remained. I just adjusted valve lash on my 2013 Honda CRV so I am quite expert at removing valve cover. I am also thinking maybe I could go to a hardware store and purchase a new similar spring. Thank you for making this awesome video!

[ichiara]

i just did in my 16 ILX and it worked perfectly, the only difference that i saw was when i separated the plate from the cam it did not have the plastic piece that hold the spring. not sure if my motor does not use it but it didn’t have it. i took the spring, stretched it and put everything back together. started the engine and behold the rattle is gone. if anyone can confirm this info please let me know. regardless you saved me a ton of money, really appreciate it.

[magahenry]

You're very smart to have figured that out thanks a lot. I'm going to try this on a customers car.

[jacobandeche]

Thank you so much. I have just done the same on my 2003 Toyota Caldina with the 1.8 litre 1ZZ FE engine. The VVTI cam rattle is gone, couldn't believe it.

[boydguie]

Great info. Springs do wear out over time . Very nice work .

[MarkSWilliams]

I thought of this very thing: to just stretch out the spring. The mechanics want small fortunes to do this and want to replace the whole timing chain and the vtc gear.
Thanks for the video.

[于超-hg]

兄弟 我来自中国 我的2010款八代雅阁2.4更换了三个原厂vtc执行器 没个用不到一年就会发出这个声音 我这里的修理工没发现问题所在 我看了你的视频把弹簧拉长 声音消除了一天 然后又发出这个声音了 我今天自己拆了vtc执行器 把弹簧重新塑形并在锁销上安装了一个abs材料的底座 安装完毕后声音消除了 这说明个例拉伸弹簧不能解决问题 ，个别弹簧拉伸后不久就会恢复， 我把abs材料的底座安装后，弹簧压缩后不能超过锁销定点 故障完美消除 灵感来源你这个视频 感谢 关注你了 6:17

[bernardhorton]

Thanks Man very informative video. I thought I was going to have to replace the whole from an earlier video I was watching. I’m glad I checked you out. I’m now subscribed to you. Thanks for taking time and explaining it. I just wish you had a video of you removing everything else from start to finish. I need to perform on my 2011 Honda Accord, Bless you!

Useful video, thanks. One thing: if stretching the spring doesn't work, and then you order the kit from Spring Start, it comes with a recommendation that you also replace the chain tensioner, in addition to swapping out the spring on the VTC. So, depending on your mechanical skills, you may or may not have a hard time with that. What bothers me is that apparently there is no mention of this 'prior' to buying the kit, so Spring Start is giving you the impression that just changing the spring will fix the problem.

I wouldn't exactly call that shady, but I do think it's a pretty big omission.

[ChuysYouTube]

Wished i watched this video earlier, i just recently changed this part because of the rattle. I could’ve saved myself $700 dollas 😢. Oh well thanks for posting either way, if the rattle comes back i will now know what to do. Saving this video for reference. Thanks for the clear instructions.

[robkenna]

Thanks man, this was very helpful. I recently installed a JDM engine with supposedly 55k miles in my 13crv and it has been making that annoying rattle at startup ifbit sat for more than a couple hours. I did this spring trick last night, took maybe about an hour, car has been sitting for 16 hours and i just started it in 30F degree weather, i was super happy as it made no noise. Not sure if it will be a permanent fix but it was super easy to do and may at least buy me some time. :-). Ended up replacing vtc as rattle returned rather quickly. Also did the chain tensioner while i was in there.