Regenerated With A Joyless Heart - An Introduction To Calvinism

Michael Reeves of @ligonier answers the question "I have lost my joy in salvation after becoming Reformed. What am I missing?" and "Does Reformed theology rob us of joy by emphasizing God’s sovereign work of salvation?"

In this brief response, Idol Killer points out some problems common among converts to Calvinism... that being a joyless and hopeless heart.

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[jaggedlines]

It is a real shame to hear so much anti-calvinist sentiment on your channel. It borders on an almost
' hate 'understanding for anything Calvinist.
I do not see any love for any christian Calvinists here.
Maybe you believe that Calvinists are NOT Christians.

This is what I observe.

[TheOverlapLifewithTimBarber]

Brilliant. What more to say? Calvinism is unlivable. The minute you act as though you have decision-making power, you flout the systematic. Praying for the scales to fall off the eyes of all involved.

[mikemaynard]

I was introduced to Calvinism in 2020. I rejected based of the L of their system but was open to being wrong about the other points and joined a reformed church. Joy was disappearing fast for me. I studied Calvinism while I was there and left two years later. My joy came back.

[sharonlouise]

Fantastic. Direct. To the point. Before the penny finally dropped that my pastor of 25 years had become systematically more and more calvinistic through the years all my misery and suffering was my fault and it was all because it glorified God. I was without hope, depressed and living a joyless fatalistic life. Once I left and regained my faith and my walk of faith, God restored to me the joy of my salvation. Calvinism offers you a God who doesn't really care about you at all. Prayer isn't about asking God to give me what I actually do need daily as Jesus Himself instructed us to pray, but a practice to get me to praise Him for all the horribleness that He's predestined to occur in my life. ABSOLUTELY NO ONE EVER, EVER, EVER COMES UP WITH CALVINISM SIMPLY BY READING AND STUDYING THE SCRIPTURES. (Note: all caps for emphasis...not yelling). You must go to them and allow them and their teachers to teach it to you. Wow! Really? Secret knowledge? Sounds like a knowledge cult to me. Thank you for your ministry to the body of Christ. I appreciate you very much.

[salvadaXgracia]

This was my experience. I had already accepted Calvinism as a child since my parents taught it to me but I didn't really think about it too much. When my husband and I started attending a Presbyterian church, it was talked about frequently so I was forced to really think about it and its implications. I almost left the faith at that time and had a long tearful phone conversation with our pastor. Whatever he said satisfied me enough and I had no where else to go as far as religion so I stayed in the faith and just held multiple self- and biblical-contradictions at once. But I felt such a lack of love from God and lack of justice and I struggled to love God like I had before. After leaving Calvinism 11 years later, I feel such incredible joy, hope, and love both from God and for God. And now the Bible makes so much sense instead of being contradictory! I am so thankful to know Calvinism is false and God really is good, just, and loving.

[drjlrust]

This was my experience! When we attended a Calvinist church, I felt oppressed, depressed, and helpless. I was in a zombie state, thinking, "Why pray, why evangelize, why even get up in the morning, if God is going to do what He pleases and has already decided everything? I'll just get in His way." It is a terrible feeling that made me want to rebel, just to feel alive.

[theologicaldarkweb]

It's easy to underestimate the persuasive power these respected men with immense prestige can have over the average person. Especially when putting forward arguments like "So you think all of Christianity is wrong and you're the only one who knows how to read the bible?" Don't be fooled by this trick.

[wiley]

Thanks for the ministry brother! Once I got away from calvinist teaching, my whole relationship with God changed for the better.

[yvonnedoulos]

Such a comforting response for that poor soul who has lost his joy. 😣

[kimsteel]

I am so glad to have found this channel! It does my heart super good to see more anti-Calvinism channels showing up! Solid content and powerful testimony! Blessings to you and all you do!

[travissharon]

I'm going through a crisis of faith. I feel that casting pearls before swine is a great weakness of mine.

Very few people that I've interacted with are willing to entertain the idea that anything they've learned could be wrong.

It seems like walking off into the desert would be more profitable than continuing my current path.

Yet God still seems to steer me into meeting more and more ideologically captured individuals.

He has been graceful in giving me a handful of people who are actually into exchanging ideas and considering and critiquing them, but they are truly a remnant.

[bornagainbeliever]

When my adult child became a reformer/calvinist after being saved many years, that was the first thing I noticed about her.. she lost her joy…. It’s like I’ve been in a nightmare the last 2-3 years 💔🙏🏻

[titosantiago]

It's heartbreaking to know that in a world full of pain and grief so many are captive to this ideology that distorts God and the Good News as joyless bad news.

[billredondo]

35 yrs ago I had a Swiss friend who in a conversation about Reformed Christianity told me that Switzerland was divided between Reformed and Catholic Cantons, he then said, the way you can distinguish one from the other was that towns in Catholic Cantons were painted in bright colors while Reformed towns were plain and drab!

I once shared that story in CRC Church in GR MI and several members were shocked and offended by that statement!

[All-Things-New]

One look at the overflowing joy of these guys on the stage tells all. Never seen the boys so happy.

[timkoelln]

“Calvinism is stealing my joy.” “No problem, just study Calvinism more.” Sounds kind of like: “My kitchen is on fire!””No problem, just go light the living room on fire.” I also love how he doesn’t recommend the Bible, but “good books” which, of course, would be Calvinistic. 🤡🙄

[melissaschubert]

After being under controlling pastor\elders, then digging down and realizing the evil spirit of Calvin was the culprit of the false teaching, I was free again (even though I always was truly and couldn’t understand some sour puss and mean people in the “church”) to love my Savior who I loved at age 8- then going through a couple years of learning why Calvinism is so evil and wrong (thanks Leighton, Kevin, Idol Killer, etc) it is a joy to interact and love the real discussion and love of those who believe in ALLL of scripture and revel in it and even explore amazing ideas and looking for Christ’s coming and the world we live in! Thanks, Blurry Creatures podcast and the sweet Christians who simply live and believe - the true Gospel of our personal and loving Savior!

[tedfordhyde]

That response from him was so pathetic and condescending that it almost made me ill. Thanks for your expose of this Warren, and we look forward to more.

[humanson]

I’m so glad I walked away from Calvinism. I used to think it was so neat and concise. I was prideful and naive. Its embarrassing listening to this man and knowing that just a few years ago I would have completely fallen for his psycho babble!😞

[ericedwards]

Just one of the nicest eviscerations ever. BRUTAL!