JOY is the REAL VILLAIN in INSIDE OUT... #shorts

Ever wonder how Riley's life in "Inside Out" almost took a tragic turn because of Joy? Sounds crazy, right? Turns out, Joy, the supposed hero of the film, might just be the hidden villain. Let me break it down. "Inside Out" was a hit for various reasons, exploring both teens' and parents' perspectives. Interestingly, it lacked a traditional villain setup, focusing more on Riley's self-discovery. Now, here's where it gets interesting. Joy, despite her name, wasn't all sunshine. She's possessive and controlling, and she wants Riley to feel only what she dishes out. She treated sadness like an outcast, trying to confine her to a circle of sadness. Joy's intolerance to other emotions and her failure to understand their importance caused a disastrous fight in Riley's mind, which led to Riley's emotional breakdown and accelerated her depression. So, was Joy overrated? Maybe. While not a classic villain, Joy's lack of empathy, especially toward sadness, caused some of the film's most unfortunate moments, making her an unintentional antiheroine. Let me know if this theory clicks for you!
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[crypticghost]

I don't want to say that Joy was the true villain of Inside Out or that she lacked empathy. She just lacked the knowledge of how feeling sad can be good for you until that one scene where she was sad herself in the memory dump

[NikitaGamer]

That’s what is called “Smiling Depression”

[JustDance]

I don’t think Joy is the villain, she wanted Riley to be happy, but she then realized that she was to controlling with the other emotions

[CM_SonicAndOtherStuff]

She's no villain. She just didn't realize that riley was supposed to feel other emotions. She eventually accepted sadness at the end.

[robertb]

Joy is not a villain, she just misunderstood, she thought Riley needed to be happy, which gave her a good reputation, but of course we always have a sad moment, like one of our beloved family members passed away, you couldn't be happy when one of your loved ones died.

[LleytonSPD]

Oh no, a character has a flaw that genuinely brings down the chemistry between the main group, and the whole movie is about fixing that flaw??? NOOO WAAYY SHES THE

[AKAAKA-wh]

it's because Riley was trying to be happy and keep the bad thoughts away. that's why joy is so controlling
edit: I hate to be that person but....thanks for the likes!

[WOOF]

Joy- “I just wanted to make Riley happy😭”

[idkkkk]

Joy wanted what she thought was best but she failed to see others point of view so she isn't truly bad since she had good intentions. It's just a fairly common flaw among actual real life people as well.

[bennet]

She can't be the venom because she represents a feeling. The movie is about finding Joy again. But in the end effect finds you.

[blixtenreal]

This dude is 🥛ING inside out right now

[gaybot]

I honestly really love Joy as a character. She isn't a villain at all: she genuinely believes she's doing the right thing for Riley. In the same way that many people do bad things in an attempt to do good, Joy is trying to help Riley's mental state by gatekeeping other emotions, which backfires horribly and ends up hurting Riley instead. She is a good person, but she's flawed in a realistic way, and that's what makes her an amazing character. Some of the best characters in my opinion are those who aren't 100% good or 100% evil - characters need to be three-dimensional and Inside Out handled it really well. I just don't like when people take a character's flaws and use them to try to say that they're not a "good" character. All the best characters have flaws. A huge part of this film is toxic positivity and its harmful effects on the mind. Over the course of the film, Joy learns of her harmful actions and the positive effects of Sadness's sympathy towards people and realises that Riley needs Sadness to be empathetic and life a fulfilling life. She learns from her mistakes in the end. She certainly isn't a villain.

[KaelyWaely]

Finally someone who’s doesn’t blame sadness for everything

[xx]

Joy is literally the main character of Inside Out, her character development in the film reflects how Riley is growing up

[jovaniecalidguid]

Joy just doesn't want riley to be sad

[Cat-ocgc]

My theory is that we put so much emphasis on feeling happiness. Riley is the same way, This being translated into the mental world is why Joy is so possessive with control. It isn’t a lack of empathy but instead (similar to what she said in the movie) she feels an overwhelming sense to help Riley be happy all the time. doesn’t make her a villain at all.

(Just my thoughts tho)

[thomasgibbons]

No.... Really. Did you know, Woody is the villain of toy story 1? He's jealous of buzz and all the attention he's getting. In his jealous state, he causes the lamp to knock buzz out of the window and kick starts the plot of the movie. It's eventually clear to Woody that he needs to let go of this jealousy. 😱

Gotta milk those views, likes, and clicks huh?

[Raymond-uc]

Wow, so Joy is the villain.... like any other character in any other Pixar movie! Toy Story: Woody, who was actually jealous of Buzz being Andy's new favorite toy, knocked him out of the window. So, okay, that made him evil then. Cars 2: Lightning McQueen got mean at Mater just because of how he losed the race, and accused Mater for the cause. Finding Nemo: Marlin is becoming so overprotective with Nemo exploring many places. The Incredibles: Bob refuses to choose his family over work. They are the VILLAINS of their stories. 😲😲😲😲😲😲! Yeah... but, still, even if Joy became somewhat selfish, Joy still remains to be a likeable character, and at the end, she realises that she's wrong about taking too much on control to make Riley happy all the time. That's how every movie is, at the beginning or climax, the heroes became selfish just because how attached they want to achieve their goals, but after a while, they now understand from their mistakes, and give other people a chance.

[thinkwithvideos]

So we can't have characters that have flaws and go through character arcs where they learns lessons?

Joy being like that in the beggining is the whole point of her character arc. She learns to not be controlling and that sadness is important.
She is a flawed character who goes through a character arc. But I guess that makes her a villian to many people.🤦‍♂️


So I guess Woody is the villian of Toy Story 1 then right? He is an asshole who drove the conflict by being jealous and knocking Buzz out the window, SO HE IS THE VILLIAN!😈
Neverminding the character arc he goes through near the end of the film.
NOPE, that never happened!

Marlin never learned to let go of his overprotectiveness. He didn't swim across the ocean to find Nemo

Mr Incredible/Bob never learned to appreaciate his family more than his work. He didn't mourn his family when he thought they died and apologized to them later.

Carl never learned to live a happy life even without his wife. He didn't go back to save Russel and Kevin.

Merida/Brave is the one who turned her mother into a bear. She never learned to appreciate her mother.

Migeal never learned to appreciate family more than music. He didn't try to save his grandfather.

NOPE. They are the villiians because thats apparently how that works to these people🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️

[geddyw]

Rewatching the film, Joy was definitely not that bad. In fact, I like her even more now for a few reasons:

-When Sadness is claiming that she's awful, Joy reassures her she's not awful. Joy sidesteps about Sadness feeling annoying, but it should be noted that Joy only finds Sadness annoying. Joy doesn't hate Sadness, she just doesn't know what Sadness' role is (Sadness doesn't even know either)

-Joy clearly trusts Sadness to some degree, letting her direct the way out of long-term, confirming with Sadness about their being another train in imagination land, following Sadness' instructions on how to escape abstract thought, following Sadness' idea to get to the subconscious

-Joy frequently helps Sadness: when goofball island is crumbling, Joy catches Sadness from falling. When getting on the train, Joy helps Sadness up. If Joy actually hated Sadness she would've ditched Sadness the moment she got

-When Joy decides to take the recall tube, not only does she say sorry, she had TO TAKE A MINUTE TO THINK ABOUT IT. She even looked down with guilt about leaving Sadness behind. However it also needs to be remembered that if everything got restored that way, Sadness could board the train of thought back anyways

-Joy's methods of dealing with sad experiences is not inherently wrong. When Joy sees someone sad, her instinct is obviously to cheer them up. It's not "toxic", small problems can sometimes be laughed off. What she didn't understand was just how big problems do need to be dealt with by grieving. Which is what she learns anyways

-Joy DOES trust the other emotions. Frequently there's talk how she's super bossy, but she lets Fear, Disgust, and Anger provide input multiple times. She even steps aside when she understands it's not her time. However times she does take charge is for good reasons:

---when Sadness insisted she should drive, Joy blocking her caused the other emotions to be shocked, implying it was a rare moment or even they agreed. However, Riley is hitting the age to understand that her Dad's work is important, so obviously she wouldn't bust out crying

---When Joy stops Disgust on the first day of school, it's because Disgust would've responded rudely to Riley's parents, which Joy knows is bad. But in the school, DISGUST stops Joy from rushing over to the cool girls, and Joy accepts that

-Some people complain about how Joy tries to make everything in Riley's life happy, when that's kinda the point? We WANT to feel happy. The other emotions are how we CAN feel happy, by dealing with and addressing problems to make our situations the best they can be. That's why Fear couldn't stop Riley from running away, because even if she went back, she wouldn't experience any relief (Joy). As such, Riley enters the depressive mindset of "why bother". Joy then lets Sadness take over, since Joy understands now that such a big problem like this needs to be addressed so that Riley can feel happy again