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Airbus A380s are slowly returning to service following increased demand and recovery. However, some airlines they're still moving forward with big plans to remove the series from their fleet. China Southern is the next on the list, with their final two A380s departing their base and headed to the Californian desert, marking an end of an era for the airline that flew the A380 throughout the 2010s.

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Understandable decision. A380 works for companies like Emirates thanks to their hub and spoke model in combination with the size of their fleet.

jeroenmarre
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To me, it's unfortunate, but not too much of a surprise for China Southern Airlines to retire the A380 as even many years before the pandemic came, China Southern barely had any use for the A380, and had very little-no destinations that made their A380 worth deploying with Los Angeles the closest they could get to make their A380 route network profitable.

lucascalma
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China Southern has struggled for years to make it work. It was more prestige and I’m sure that’s nearly the case with Air China and their 747-8I fleet although the key difference is the 747-8I works for Air China because it’s not as big despite the longer length

filledwithvariousknowledge
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0:39 China Southern has 5 A380s not 6. As of December 2022, at least 37 of the 251 A380s are retired and here's the list :
4 Singapore Airlines (2018) + 2 (2021) + 1 (2022)
10 Air France (1 retired few months before covid)
6 Lufthansa (6 A380s sold back to Airbus. Lufthansa confirmed the retirement of the entire A380 fleet back in April 1st 2022 only to reverse its decision on 27 June 2022. Lufthansa will reactivate at least four A380s by summer 2023 with an option for up to four more by 2024.)
1 Hifly (December 2020)
2 Emirates
2 China Southern Airlines (February 2022) + 3 (December 2022)
1 Qantas (June 2022)
3 Malaysia Airlines (November 2022) + 3 (December 2022)

nurrizadjatmiko
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I have not flown on a A380 yet. Pls wait for me to fly on it before putting them on storage…

delanopulido
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My thoughts are: I am a bit confused. China Southern is completely retiring it's A380 fleet or it's putting 2 of them for long term storage, kind of like how the German Airliner, Lufthansa made the decision to do?

aakashkarajgikar
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a380 for me is very good aircraft everyone has right to his opinion.

kresimirmilisa
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airlines w/ hubs that r always used for stopovers/connecting flights r good for the a380 (i think like: british airways, air france, singapore airlines, emirates, qatar airways, eithad, qantas, korean air, & probably some i forgot

while using an a380 for point to point (i think that’s what it’s called); charter flights; seasonal flights; etc. would be better w/ a single deck plane

i think china southern made a right choice, as it seems like less passengers

abcjelly
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Speaking of A380, Lufthansa are planning to reactive all 8 A380 instead of 3 or 4 on the last news.

capt.skymarshal
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Would a A380 with the lower passenger deck converted to cargo storage be possible or would it be overweight?

leeroberts
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DJ always gives a thorough analysis of the situation! Very knowledgeable!!

jerryitaly
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Good riddance, really. No shade intended, but the A380 was always really a fantasy airplane that could get by in a flush market, but it's adaptability to changing conditions was never there.

veronicamdissues
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Hey DJ - not sure why when you talk the twin jets the A330neo doesn’t get a mention? On so many missions it would be the best jet in class for profitability and passenger comfort!

aussiedude
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Just wonder why Emirates does not just buy the 6 from Malaysia Airlines and another 6 from China Southern

yslee
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China southern may not have full loads to keep the A380 profitable

nathanielcallender
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the airbus must fly un till i complete my buckt list to fly as passenger the airbus a380 the a350 and the boeing 747-8

MrCaptainDietrich
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If you are a fantastic airliner you can handle and have Airbus 380.
If you are small or don't make your work right, you can't have it.

Eduard.Popa.
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Hows this big news smh hate news bout these giants put away

blueskiesk
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maybe in 5 years we can see a plan for an a360 twin engine with two RR ultrafan and a half double decker like the 747?
for some applications it makes sense to have 20% more capacity than an a350.
material science and modern honeycomb-like sandwich structures or 3d-printing could offer better capabilities for light weight construction.

stefanweilhartner
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A380s are only profitable when operating at near full seat capacity and they NEED to fill up the premium class accomodations every time, too. Boeing gave thought to a superjumbo but saw that its limitations outweighed its benefits. So the egos at Airbus blindly charged ahead, wanting desperately to beat Boeing at something, like making a bigger plane than a 747, and as a result, Airbus has never yet actually turned a profit on the A380 program. Boeing laughs.

Turboy