SPEEDSTER VS CONTEND VS DOMANE VS ALLEZ VS ENDURACE

£999.00 BUDGET ROAD BIKE - SCOTT SPEEDSTER 10 vs GIANT CONTEND SL 1 vs TREK Domane ALR 3 vs SPECIALIZED Allez Elite vs CANYON ENDURACE AL 7.0

[terbennett]

I have to disagree. 105 is the sweet spot. There is not much difference between Ultegra and 105. That's why Ultegra is priced closer to 105 than Dura Ace.  Ultegra and Dura Ace might feel similar, but so does a well tuned 105. However,  what you pay for with Dura Ace is what you generally don't see. If you break down each component, you'll notice that derailleurs on Ultegra and 105 are designed exactly the same, with Ultegra using lighter materials with a better finish. Ultegra is actually closer to 105 than it is to Dura Ace. Ultegra is more of a "105 SL." Dura Ace has a different internal design on the derailleurs,  using lighter,  sturdier internals... meaning more expensive materials with an even better finish than Ultegra.  As for shifters, Dura Ace uses a 4 bearing design; Ultegra and the others use a single bearing design, plus Dura Ace uses full carbon shift levers. Ultegra uses carbon fiber with a plastic resin. 105 uses all plastic (they use another name for it though).  Only gripe with Dura Ace is the cassette on the 9000 and 9100 models. It's use of titanium on the cassette means that while it is lighter than Ultegra,  it wears faster; which is why I and so many others use Ultegra cassettes. Ultegra and Dura Ace might feel the same when new, but after a lot of time and use, you realize why Dura Ace costs more. The shifters and derailleurs generally last longer. As for why 105 is called 105, I really don't know. However, it has been called 105 since it was introduced in the 1980's. Ultegra used to be called Shimano 600 back then; Dura Ace has been Dura Ace since the 70's. In the 80's, due to Shimano's fear of tarnishing the Dura Ace name with a failed product, 105 was where all the latest technology was introduced: SIS, Biopace, and let's not forget SLR brakes. Even Dura Ace owners racing to get 105 brakes at that time. SLR brakes, like the current Dura Ace brakes, were the best on the market, and they were only available on 105 when first introduced. 105 has seen success in many types disciplines, racing, touring, cyclocross, tandems, etc. Changing the name would be like changing the name of Dura Ace. Shimano phased out 600 in favor of Ultegra in the 90's. While 600/Ultegra has always been a great gruppo, it never had the reputation of 105. It wasn't until the introduction of carbon bikes that people really embraced Ultegra the way they do today. Back in the 90's, carbon bikes were initially only equipped with Ultegra or Dura Ace (provided they were equipped with Shimano components. Many who wanted carbon bikes, either didn't want to spend the money or couldn't afford the bump to Dura Ace, they were relegated to Ultegra.  105 wasn't used on carbon bikes until the mid 2000's. As for Tektro, they make brakes for several entry level to mid level bikes for a very long time. I'm surprised you've never heard of them!. The performance isn't the best with them until you swap out the pads for a set of aftermarkets, like the Kool Stop salmon pads. If that's not enough to impress you, have you ever heard of a high end brand of brakes called TRP? TRP is Tektro.

[gkame]

You can get just as fit on a $999 bike as you can on a $9, 999 bike.

[baconfromhell]

I don't know that I would say that ultegra is the sweet spot. I just ordered a Giant defy advanced pro 2, so with 105. I looked at the pro 1 with ultegra, and read everything I could find, and other than the color of the bike, it having ultegra instead of 105 was the only difference I could find and it was 400£ more expensive. 400£ to save just a few grams doesn't seem like a sweet spot to me.

[neilmurray]

Really like the overlay effect I would like to see that with all bikes of manufacturs.

[treegrasss]

Not surprised Trek got the last place out of those bikes. in most cases price to performance ratio on Trek bikes are sub par. i also have owned road bikes from Trek, Specialized and Giant and Trek was the only bike i got continuously disappointed as i rode them.

[hanumantkale]

I am beginner
And this information is very helpful for me. Thanks 👍😘
You are doing well. Keep it up 🙂

[shaunhoulahan]

Very good analysis. I wouldn't get hung up on group sets. Sora & tiagra groups work fine but you do notice a bigger jump between gears. Dura-ace is very expensive for what it is.

[barryotieno]

Thanks and great video. You helped me make the choice for the Canyon Endurace

[saleemwaheed]

You've never heard of Tektro? Where have you been?

[Makingdifference]

I am so glad I came across your video. Thank you so much for all the information you provided me through your video. Now I can make a much educated decision.

[simonbradley]

Love the comparison vids mate, keep it up, I have 2 bikes at this price point so good to see what's available now 👍

[treegrasss]

as always thanks for the awesome entertaining bike comparison. i really enjoy watching them.

[mxs]

I’d say the sweet spot is 1000-1500. For that you can easily get a good bike with 11s group like 105 or ultegra and a full carbon frame. Everything after 11s and full carbon frame will be marginal gains. Never buy new, get them used. From what I’ve seen on bike listings bikes seem to loose like 50% value after the first ride...

[clas]

Not only choice of groupset matters. Wheels & tires but also cofort components like the seatpost affects the value of a bike. Canyon I belive is the only one with a really good carbon/graphite seatpost that smoothens the ride significantly over an alu piece. Also the giant comes with tubeless wheels and tires if I’m not misstaken. Nice comparison over geometry!

[hundorfean]

can you make this comparison on disc brakes version?. thk's

[detolerandisstultorum]

If your budget is 1000 max, than it is highly improbable that you will ride/have friends that afford 3-4000 USD bikes. More likely the more expensive bikes will spend more time inside, than on the tarmac. Very rich people do not have the time or the will to ride, they buy them to show off.

[nicholassmith]

I'm currently looking at changing my heavy cheap hybrid and buying a bike in this sort of price range. I have had a look at the majority of these (didn't look at Specialized) and the one I like the most is the Scott Speedster. I have a bit of weight behind me so the 28 tyres is definitely a plus compared to the thinner 25s

[ocubex]

Great breakdown of entry road bikes. What do you think of Decathlon's Triban RC500?

[koko_]

Nice idea with the graph but it's wildly flawed. The biggest variation would be in body positions, wheels and then somewhere the frame. Air resistance is exponential - you would maybe gain a couple MPH max going from £999 to £12500.

[jakubkmiec]

I think it’s time for another video
- orbea avant h30
- caad 13
- synapse
I would add Rose Pro SL, but that would be unfair. Canyon and Rose give you a lot more for your money but availability can be sketchy and you can’t try them out before buying.