A Secret Message in Genesis 5?

Many people claim the names of Genesis 5 actually teach the Gospel. The claim is if you take the meaning of the names we get, "Man appointed mortal sorrow, the blessed God shall come down preaching his death shall bring the despairing rest. How truthful is this?

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[samuelromerosoto]

You don’t need to go Genesis 5 to find the gospel, go to Genesis 3. It’s easier to read and it doesn’t break your head. By reading the gospel it’s easy to infer that the woman’s seed appointed to crush the serpent’s head while simultaneously being bitten is Jesus.

[BobBob-yjpg]

The bible is filled with so many wonderful and beautiful nuggets odd when people try to make them up.

[alexandersalvador]

When I first heard this I looked up the names in a Google Hebrew names translator to verify. The definition of 9 of the 10 names was spot on, and one was questionable, but reasonable, and as a whole told the story of Jesus. That, my friends, is good enough for me! You look it up for yourself and realize that Jesus is truly Lord of Lords.

[JabberWkie]

When I first heard this argument, it sounded so amazing that I wanted to believe it, but suspected there were some liberties taken with the translation. Thanks for clearing it up.
God’s Word is already astonishing in its revelations and has no need of extra inspiration from us.

[firelight_ministries]

Words in Hebrew can mean many different things. I looked each of these names up individually and this “hidden message” is true. Enoch means “trained”. The name Enosh means “mortal, frail, or miserable”. Kenan means “to mourn, lament, or sorrow after”.

[collegepennsylvania]

“He was despised and rejected— a man of sorrows, acquainted with deepest grief. We turned our backs on him and looked the other way. He was despised, and we did not care. Yet it was our weaknesses he carried; it was our sorrows that weighed him down. And we thought his troubles were a punishment from God, a punishment for his own sins! But he was pierced for our rebellion, crushed for our sins. He was beaten so we could be whole. He was whipped so we could be healed. All of us, like sheep, have strayed away. We have left God’s paths to follow our own. Yet the Lord laid on him the sins of us all. He was oppressed and treated harshly, yet he never said a word. He was led like a lamb to the slaughter. And as a sheep is silent before the shearers, he did not open his mouth. Unjustly condemned, he was led away. No one cared that he died without descendants, that his life was cut short in midstream. But he was struck down for the rebellion of my people. He had done no wrong and had never deceived anyone. But he was buried like a criminal; he was put in a rich man’s grave. But it was the Lord’s good plan to crush him and cause him grief. Yet when his life is made an offering for sin, he will have many descendants. He will enjoy a long life, and the Lord’s good plan will prosper in his hands. When he sees all that is accomplished by his anguish, he will be satisfied. And because of his experience, my righteous servant will make it possible for many to be counted righteous, for he will bear all their sins. I will give him the honors of a victorious soldier, because he exposed himself to death. He was counted among the rebels. He bore the sins of many and interceded for rebels.”
‭‭Isaiah‬ ‭53:3-12‬ ‭NLT‬‬
This was written around 700 years before Jesus came into the earth, yet it describes His life perfectly.
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[jeffreydean]

What I found after much research was this:

Adam - man
Seth - appointed or placed
Enosh - frailty
Kenan - acquire
Mahalalel - praise of God
Jared - he descends
Enoch - Dedicated, Trained
Methusaleh - One who was sent
Lamech - powerful or to make low
Noah - rest


So some of it does fit what people are saying based on my research but I do see some liberties taken to make it completely make sense. Either way, I don't really see myself using this as a tool to plant seeds with people. There's plenty of other places to do that.

[Brando_M]

Matthew Henry in his commentary wrote that Methuselah's name can mean 'he dies, there is a dart, ' and 'sending forth' considering his death marks the beginning of the flood, it does indeed mark the beginning of a 'bringing forth' then it could be translated as 'his death shall bring'. Also, considering the obscure origins of these names no one can say with 100% certainty the definitions, even your cited 'expert.'

[rysloan]

You're wrong on this IP. Eve literally says I will call him Seth because God has appointed me another son. We're supposed to know the connection to "appointed", not because it is the meaning of the word but through the meaning of the root of the word. I see another commenter has done all the hard work setting this out, so I won't repeat the details.

[gospeldgeek]

I have a feeling that the names do mean something, and that it should point to Jesus. But just like their ages, the meaning of their names is probably lost to us now.

[captainunload]

"Christians, we need to follow what scholars say."
Spoken like a man on his 15th booster shot. Lol

[disguisedcentennial]

I wish you’d have more transparency with this kind of thing, because you should’ve pointed out how one of your own videos pushes this narrative (in your Genesis series).

[luckyson]

I see videos occasionally that have similar tones about ancient or original Chinese pictographs having something to do with genesis that I think a lot of us would love to hear your thoughts on.

[nathanielalderson]

You are going against Chuck Misslers teachings on this (which is where it comes from). He's done a lot of study on these and more.

Hess is one Scholar. Missler is an expositor of high caliber. Might want to review this in more depth, than just denouncing it because it's poorly presented on TikTok.

[hiddenrambo]

They are not getting the meaning from the name in those instances but the root words like Methuselah or Methushelach; Math: Male, man from Mathay: When? Shelach: missile, weapon, sprout from Shalach: To send, appoint. But the Methu might be from the same root as moth (to die, death) so methu shalach death will send or appoint aka death will bring. There is a thought that the mek in lamek might be muk meaning to be low or depressed aka despair. Enosh: Man, mankind from Anash properly to be mortal. Anash: To be weak, sick aka mortal. Kenan or Qenan from the same as qayin: spear which is from the same as qinah: lamentation aka sorrow. Mahalalel: praise of God. Mahalal: praise from Halal: to be boastful, to praise aka Blessed. El: God, in pl. gods. Enoch from Chanok from Chanak: to train up, dedicate aka teaching. Seth from Shith: To put, set aka appointed.

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[MrWhiskers]

Yup seth means appointed or placed in every translation I checked...
Enosh means man as frail and mortal so yes mortal can be derived from that statement.

[Siamesemama]

Oh boy! I "learned" these meanings for names from my first online Bible teacher, Chuck Missler, a man I respect greatly. He always said "Do your homework". Now IP, a man whose teachings are Gold to me & there is a disagreement on the subject. I thank IP for the "heavy lifting"in other videos, but guess it's time to do my own heavy lifting & sort this one out for myself! I do like Swiss Apologetics comment below. Thank you IP for your take on Genesis 5 & desiring clarity in Scripture.

[sethcaro]

But Seth does mean appointed/designated and Enosh mortal/fragile!

[IgorFoukzon]

Your source doesn't give all legitimate readings of these names; as a Hebrew speaker, I think there is a room for the case that guy is trying to make. His argument is still weak, to my taste, and probably even slightly pathetic, but here we have enough coincidences not to mock it, at least.