The Lie of Relative Morality | Dr. Jordan Peterson #CLIP

Jordan Peterson shows how we ought to behave - as patrons for the future world we desire. He speaks on how relative morality leads to a society of chaos where truth, reality and fairness are absent.

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Dr. Jordan Peterson:

[alexj]

Thank you Dr Jordan B Peterson, for saying what NEEDS! to be said in this ridiculous and messed up age! You my friend are an Ambassador to Man-kind... society needs to appreciate and listen for the sake of future functionality! Cheers from Australia!🌏

[shedactivist]

Amazing. This sums up everything I have been trying to teach my son in one snappy video. Very timely.

[GFaulkner]

Great conversation. Using terms like Right Wing and Left Wing sparingly reduces the average viewers confirmation bias enough to hopefully look at things in a practical and solution oriented viewpoint regardless of the 'team' that they ascribe to be on.

[sethgyan]

God must exist for morality to be objective.

[liamkelly]

I recently went from sitting on the idea of “God doesn’t exist so why would I have to to think about Christianity or try to understand His will” to “Even if he doesn’t exist, His effect on his followers has been profound and changed the world possibly for all of the rest of human existence.” It was actually reading Anna Karenina and Leo Tolstoy’s interpretation of Christ’s message that led me to reconsider everything about religion and it’s place in history and today’s world. Listening to Dr. Peterson’s thoughts on these topics always leaves me with so much to consider and I’m truly grateful for all he contributes. I was particularly interested in his message to the atheists about being Judeo-Christian and it so true. Just by nature of living in western countries God’s will at least begins to shape all of us.

[nonyadamnbusiness]

I agree with John Anderson. I can't condemn someone for wanting life to be painless, but the reality is that life is pain. I am disappointed to see these two using the left's Newspeak definition of "equality". Equality is all people being equal before the law. The left has conflated equality with egalitarianism, the idea that equal outcomes can be enforced. And as my wise wife says, "The only way to have equal outcomes is for everyone to do nothing."

[PicmipPixel]

The only, well more then one but the most irritating thing, I dislike about Jordan is that he trully believes he has mankind figured out, the way he labels Sam Harris is a perfect example, you don't, just don't.

[julian_ossuna]

If morality is relative, if we can push it in any direction we see fit, then we are not subject to our values and standards. Instead, they are subjected to us. It defeats the point of having morals. They become meaningless, and so does one's life.

[suningchen]

I read a book once tilted "...a love story", it was written as a conversation between a 6 year old girl and an old philosopher in a forest. I remember clearly there was a quote: "In our material world, good is absolute, evil is relative. In the perfect world, good is everywhere while evil doesn't exist." It may not be a correct quote, because I wish to find this book once more.

[kellyinfanger]

The leftist term is "equity". The distinction between equality (which for me is about rights - not outcome) and equity (equal = outcome) needs to be taught.

[VidkunQL]

A: "Look at that drooling schizophrenic with that happy, healthy, successful man walking past."
B: "That's terrible."
A: "I agree, the inequality is awful."
B: "Inequality? I was talking about the mental illness, the waste, the misery."
A: "Yeah, all of that is caused by the inequality."
B: "I'm not-- hey, what's that on the ground?"
A: "Umm... it appears to be a single-use magic wand, with two settings, 'EQUALITY' and 'HEALTH'."
B: "Now, let's think carefully about this..."

[JakeSweeper]

I've heard of the idea of the "Divine Spark" before. And while I think it's true, one has to remember that it is a spark that needs to be fed properly, (taught morals and life experience), or it can get snuffed out before it has a chance to flame up.

[Ridingrules]

"Equality of outcomes" and "fairness" are mutually exclusive.

[BW]

Inequality also has a dark edge when you apply it to yourself. It's one thing to be a middle-class person walking down the street see a homeless person and wish that that person was better off or maybe we should tax everyone to provide some type of safety net. Fine. That is compassion.

However, it's another to see someone on in a yacht, look at your student loans and then demand that they pay your student loans. That isn't compassion, it's resentment, jealousy, and envy. It's terrible since you essentially become a mob of thieves, and worse... blame others for your lot in life and refuse to better yourself as it is easier just to guilt/force/lobby others for more things which benefit you. You see this so much in Communist countries where they go savage on the wealthy as if that will solve their personal issues.

[righteousshift]

Morality changes from era to era. What is considered right in one era is considered wrong in another.

Essentially it's subject to change based on environmental conditions. This is why Christians now consider it wrong to have slaves, to torture those who don't believe the same things as you etc etc. All things considered morally right in earlier times.

So morality is clearly treated as relative by Christianity at least. Most of Jesus' teachings are now ignored by modern Christians to the point where Christianity has no meaning really.

[PhotosynthesisBisector]

My kids were taught this in their private catholic school but not everyone chooses or has the opportunity or the religious conviction to send their children to a school that thinks this is important enough to teach as a matter of course!

[forthfarean]

Inequality is so natural to the human condition that any attempt to change it is so unnatural to human nature and human activity that to even try to make it work you need compulsion. Compulsion brings resistance .Resistance brings retribution by the governing elite . Retribution brings resentment and fear. Fear feeds the powerful and having seen it working and finding that their ambition is still rejected by the masses resort to greater and greater retribution and fear inducing terror. You have a dystopian society; they then go further in the quest for ‘equality ‘ by trying to change human nature to fit the ideology . This leads to the gulag and the corpse mountains.

[bobbyowsley]

Equality is one of the most misunderstood goals of any society that claims to want to achieve it. It could mean that the group or individuals on the lower end of the distribution gets lifted up. But it could also mean that the group on the upper end just gets dragged down to something closer to the lower end. I certainly can't speak for other countries, but I do know that in the US, attempting such a thing would result in creation of untold numbers of new government agencies to "manage" the redistribution which would further result in 90% of everything taken never making it back to the hands of those who were on the lower end to begin with.

[EddyMerlyBorjaLit]

"No rich capitalist walks down the street, walks by a homeless person, who's mentally ill..and not feel compassion. No one likes poverty.." (non-verbatim)

Man, is Jordan Peterson an idealist.


He should take a field day on Wall Street.

Or talk to corporate lawyers.

[Johnwilkinsonofficial]

that attack on Sam Harris is so preposterous and random, what a whopping non sequiter jesus!