Graviton Lance VS Collective Obligation (which is better?)

Had a really fun time editing this one, hope you enjoy!

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Thanks to duck from the discord for answering my very important question :) and also thanks to Jude, I guess?

0:00 - 0:24 Intro
0:24 - 0:38 Similarities
0:38 - 0:58 Ranking Methodology
0:58 - 1:37 Elemental Synergy
1:37 - 2:14 Chain Reaction Capability
2:14 - 3:03 Ease-of-Use
3:03 - 3:55 Build Synergy
3:55 - 4:17 Ease-of-Acquisition
4:17 - 4:41 Feel
4:41 - 4:48 Results
4:48 - 5:06 Outro

[heretomars]

Wow Thanks Llama! I'm now going to use Manitcore for EASY Boss DPS! (Please help me guys he forces me to post these)

[BrotherShaw]

Due to its Weaken and Suppression capabilities, my Void Warlock uses Collective Obligation for 1% of the content that actually requires a measured approach. I use Graviton for everything else.

[Misterchief_]

I never realized how silly having collective obligation with all 3 void verbs actually was until i took it for a spin and enemies literally couldn’t shoot back lmao 💀

[dudeydude_clips]

You didn’t mention that collective obligation get’s a 20% stacking damage buff while in the alt fire mode, and verb kills automatically reload the gun (which should increase its chaining score)

[greeksquad]

Honestly I think it has more to do with the type of content you are running. Collective obligation's insane capacity for cc and debuff spreading doesn't matter when all enemies die in a single burst, and vice versa as Graviton has trouble getting chains going in lower power content such as gms.

[shizounu]

One small gripe I have in terms of Graviton lances subclass verb interaction/synergy is that the explosions from kills can actually apply (through volatile rounds) and trigger volatile, further adding more damage and chain reaction capabilities to the weapon

[ixxcerberusxxihoundofhell]

Collective Obligation is capable of stunning two types of champions, barrier when you have the Volatile Rounds perk i.e. Gyrfalcons, and Overload from leeching suppression off of a target. I crutched this for the Glassway GM’s when they were last in rotation. Perfect for keeping everything defenseless and mindless.

[tsunamisurfer]

Best void exotic primary? Obviously the Fighting Lion

[GMurph]

Idk if you considered this but when Void Leech is active, Collective also gets a 20% damage buff. Also if you get any void debuffs applied to you, Collective will leech those as well.

[Natus]

Tbh biased, really biased. Collective obligation is big investment void exotic, reason? u need volatile round (which warlock and titan hard to trigger), second u will use suppression grenade to supress and weaken which again worst grenade (imo), third, it require very fast respond meaning you need o grab debuff before the mob dead, in many case, your teammate will kill it first before u steal debuff.

Collective work as solo and special toward hunter only (it lot easy with hunter because chest armor)

Graviton can use volatile round but it got outshine by graviton perk. Very easy to use even without brain. Warlock and titan can use it to fully potential.

Conclusion, graviton is jacks of all trade (probably in same rank with sunshot and trinity bow) while collective is master of one thing

[AAG_Vanitas]

This is a really great and detailed video. 🙏

[gossipgaming]

Thank you so much! You just got me out of the doubt. Thank you! Great content 👍💪

[kingsolarbladesea]

I had this question for so long thank you so much.

[Edgelord-xw]

Bro what do you mean? Obviously the best void primary is Le Monarque smh

[robobobum]

The answer is Lemon, why are we having this discussion?

[Rios-ovxi]

Okay but le’monarch

Also, the scoring factors are a bit random. Like, with this, mythoclast for example would score a 1 in half the categories, with its ease of use also not being particularly high, but it’s still a dummy good weapon in pve.

Also, I will say, collective being a raid exotic can p make it less random and therefore easier in a way to get than graviton. If I made a new account with witchqueen and specifically wanted one of these two weapons, I’d have an easier time farming vow for collective than farming exotics hoping I eventually get lucky.

[SpyroThunder]

Collective is very niche. In low end content it’s infinite volatile rounds can easily be matched by other weapons. And you don’t really need the weaken or suppress on every add in that case. In high end content like GM’s it really constricts your loadout. Although benefitting from teammates can help. The reward for doing this is one of the most powerful primary weapons. Making it so enemies can’t fight back, take 15% more damage from everyone and getting a damage boost from not only volatile rounds but also from the gun itself.

[stephenjennings]

Graviton is that one friend who ranks diamond after 2hrs of a game but then never moves out of diamond. Collective Obligation is the friend who starts in Bronze but hits the highest rank after a couple of months

[Will-odgm]

the manticore took your comments personally 😂

[allenparnell]

Fair scoring, great video. But I don't think Collective Obligation will ever let you kill one ad in a room and move on to the next the way Graviton does. Ease of use with that point alone puts it over Collective for me. But for cool factor and Void synergy obviously thats a no brainer