RAM Single Rank Vs. Dual Rank DDR4 | (Ryzen 5000 Vs. Intel 10th Gen)

Do I need 4 sticks of memory or can I just use 2? What about Single Rank DDR4 on Intel vs AMD? Does it favor Intel? Let's answer these questions.

Timetable
0:00 Testing to be done, and 4 Ranks vs 4 Ranks on 32GB 4 sticks vs 2 sticks.
2:30 The 1080p results, differences to be had. (CS:Go Focus)
4:40 Spectre and Meltdown on one, and off on the other.
5:30 Benchmarks continue, Dota 2, Shadow of the Tomb Raider, Horizon Zero Dawn.
8:36 Conclusion of Results.
10:07 What came out of all this testing for me.
12:40 When it comes to buying memory, three priorties (in order of relevance)
13:35 Question of the Day, AMD Bias?

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#RAM #DDR4 #AMDVsIntel

[MarcoGPUtuber]

2:32 That i9 is virtually unplayable at 700 FPS!

[techyescity]

Sorry for the reupload, correct name of the Ryzen CPU is there now :)

[mclovin]

Great job mate. That GN video left out the tests that are actually interesting. Side-note: not all DIMMs with chips on both sides are dual-rank, not all DIMMs with chips on one side only are single-rank. It's true in a lot of cases, but not always.

[alexei]

Finally, explained easily and in a practical way, nailed the issue (SR vs DR) tested with even up 4 DR modules (thing is, here when you pass the memory controller buffer which if i recall correctly is 256 bits; making 4x DR modules hit 512-bits it will start failing on you thus making you reduce frequencies to compensate, each rank takes up to 64bits of the buffer, again, I might be wrong. but that explains why 4 DR dimms are harder to set up, sometimes even 4 SR dimms are hard to set up if the CPU IMC is not very good) and all that without losing the Tech YES City style, thats why i love this channel.

In conclusion, for overall usage and the sweetspot (money/performance wise) both 2x DR or 4x SR modules will do the trick, the rest is all about timings and what not, but since you equalized all of that for this test purpose, not worth mentioning, at least for this test.

On a side note, thanks for showing some love to the 5800X while others are calling it not worthy, lol

Thanks a lot for your effort.

[Jonw]

The first one who has tested 4 X 16GB DR.. cheers mate!

[rorz]

It would've been good to also have 2x16GB SR to see how it compares with the 2x16GB DR. You only had 2x8GB SR so it's difficult to tell if the capacity (16GB total Vs 32GB total) was having any effect on performance/fps.

[graeme]

A big detail you missed when rounding up. Motherboards often do not allow as high a clock speed when using multiple ranks per dimm. Example MSI x570 tomahawk will only run at max 3800MHz when using 2 ranks per dimm where it will run at 4600MHz with single rank sticks. The sweet spot for zen 3, if your CPU clocks will allow, could actually be 4x single rank dimms clocked at 4000MHz in this motherboards case. Very important detail to remember, always RTFM.

[Phynellius]

thanks for actually testing 4 ranks per channel, most tech channels haven't recently so it was a bit of a blank for information

[ignasanchezl]

It's so annoying that most memory manufacturers don't say if their sticks are single or double rank.
It used to be that all 16gb sticks were dual rank since 2g modules didn't exist, but now with 2g modules, they can build 16gb sticks in single rank.
Kingston used to specify their memory ranks in the spec sheets, but now they just tell you the amount of modules and size, so if it has 8 x 8bit modules it's single rank, if it's 16 x 8 bit modules it's dual rank.

[MarcoGPUtuber]

I consider Tech YES MS Paint Diagrams to be NOTHING but Fine Art!

[Bearded.Stranger]

@3:06 Are you sure simply having memory banks on both sides means they're Dual ranked? I could be wrong but HUB said it is not necessarily an indication of having an extra 64bit or dual rank.

[-zerocool-]

The only video on yt comparing 2x16 vs 4x16. Thanks!!

[Trick-Framed]

Double sided is not the same as dual rank. A double sided module can be single rank so long as the rank is spread across all the chips, front and back. I have noticed many ram makers use the single side, single rank that you explain, however it's not necessarily the case.

[djtlh]

love the ms paint presentation! they can demonstrate things very clearly! please do them more often!

[elstondias]

Happy Birthday Mr "Yes Man"... May you have many more to come... Btw yesterday was my Bday. I've learnt a lot of stuff through your channel for the past 5 years now keep up the good work and all the best...👍👍

[RESURRECT]

Hi! Can you check if turning on/off LED RGB on RAM adds FPS to games?

[JustAGuy]

This is why I've intentionally been using 4x sticks of RAM since DDR2. 4x2GB sticks back then on Core 2 Duo and Core 2 Quad. On my FX-8350 rig, I bought 4x4GB sticks.
The only con was that to upgrade from the memory amount, you'd have to pull some sticks that you're using. However, I was always choosing the amount of RAM that was the "sweet spot" at the time. Like on the FX-8350 rig... 16GB RAM was never maxed out.

Currently, now I have 2x16GB DDR4 3600 C16 dual rank for my 5900x. Lightly tweaked timings, too. Always have tweaked the timings.

I could NOT get people to believe that it was better. I didn't know it was a "dual rank" thing in the beginning. I just knew it performed better. People were all "but yur memory controller can't handle it." It did handle it. I never had issues. Whether it was DDR2 800 or DDR3 1866, I never had issues on the Asus P5B boards or the Asus M5A97 R2.0 with the FX-8350.

I hate sheep mentality. It takes a reviewer to tell someone what to do and they'll do it.

Me? The random guy on the internet with a half rude attitude? Psh, they'll NEVER listen.

I've been trying to get people to understand bus width is how many memory chips are on the GPU, currently. One memory chip = 32 bits. OR, in GGDR6x, it's technically 2x16 bit per memory chip. Still 32-bit per chip. Because people are like "Why don't they make the bus width larger?" And I explain why. And it still hasn't caught on.

So YOU, the review channel guys, are going to have to help people to understand this. It's not catching on. Just like I couldn't get people to understand dual rank was better for a decade in a row.

[MarcoGPUtuber]

15:08 The story I want is the Tech YES Truth!
And that's why I remain a Tech YES Citizen!

[zedorda]

If you look up the specs on his RAM sticks you find that they are all Dual Rank sticks. Great job!

[kratostheinevitable]

Guys, a module that has chips on both sides doesn't necessarily mean that it is dual-rank (that is called double-sided). It has to do with the bank size of the individual chips on the module.