why jubilee is like p*rn

Bonjour!

SOURCES/RESSOURCES 📚

Amia Srinivasan, The Right to Sex, 2021(more precisely the section on [peach])
Vox's Explained Series on Sex, available on Netflix and some episodes are available on YouTube.
The passage on censorship is inspired by the work of Geoffroy de Lagasnerie

Other sources can be found throughout the video :)

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SOCIALS 👩‍💻
Storygraph: @alicecappelle
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Twitter: @cappelle_alice

[Isa.esthetics]

Jubilee gives 2015 buzzfeed or cosmopolitan vibes

[lexm]

What I find funny about Jubilee is that it says it wants to promote empathy but their comment sections are always anything but.

[abenagyampo]

As a black woman, I could NEVER watch the Jubilee videos where they rate people based on “physical attractiveness”. It’d be bad for my mental health 💀💀💀💀

[cvcv]

The intolerance paradox: To have a tolerant society we must be intolerant of intolerance.

[aaronbarlow]

This line really hit me(8:39): “if every single young person was taught proper sex ed at school (one that includes the notion of pleasure, desire, consent gender norms, etc.), they wouldn’t see peach as an authority—they would naturally understand that it is fake.” I grew up in Mormon Utah where such education was essentially nonexistent. And I have spent YEARS unlearning the lies I internalized from peach (and I’m not done yet). I wish conservative parents understood this principle better.

[theoretisch]

Jubilee with their format "middle ground" is also guilty of both siding (for the lack of a better term) and normalizing extremist views: When a group advocating for their (human) rights "debates" a group that wants to eradicate the first group out of existence there is no middle ground. Only one group is in the right here. And I feel like videos like this never have this message.

[booselussy]

Let's not forget how jubilee always gets right wing commentators equipped with their talking points to debate random people of the street

[averagejoe]

“Human rights: Let’s compromise” sums up Jubilee

[pendragon]

Now THAT'S an eyecatching title! Well done, Alice! 🙂You're having a conversation that Abraham Lincoln himself was involved with. He argued against popular sovereignty (the idea that each state, North and South, should decide for themselves about slavery) because he argued that this argument suggested that one side was pretty much the same as another. He disagreed--saying that we should not try to find the middle ground between right and wrong but side with the right (not the political right, lol). This video is an excellent addition to the centuries long discussion!

[imancdr]

I would add that there are two things that really bother me with jubilee's middle ground videos. First is how they always cast someone that seems "moderate" but actually is against many human rights, and that person is always praised in the comments for how calm and well spoken they were, no matter how unresearched and harmful what they said was. Then I think they should had fact checking in their videos and invite experts like sociologist or historians for example because the conversations tend to be surface level and based on the individuals experiences only (not all the time but often).

[themelonsoup]

Jubilee just likes to stir up chaos like a reality TV show. They don't even take turns when debating half the time. I agree that peach is absolutely dripping in violence and hatred, and that makes me really upset, but the two sides of the argument are always women are better than those dirty horny men or women are sex objects let me keep it that way. I hate both of those takes honestly. I think it's totally normal and healthy to enjoy being a sexually mature human being, but we gotta get real here and start enforcing some serious regulations on this industry.

[sandrae]

Thank you for this. Jubilee is really infuriating when they have "middle ground" conversations with people that are extremists and hateful and that spread misinformation and essentially give them a platform. It's gross when the comments think speaking calmly is equal to being intelligent. Just because someone is calmly saying women's rights don't matter or invalidates objectively accurate experiences doesn't make them empathetic or respectable. Acting like people should be okay with an extremist's opinion is vile.

[gwitthuhn]

Well done! I wish the people who advocate against comprehensive sex-ed would understand that the alternative is driving young adults to learn about sex from porn hub....

[karl_margs]

Middle ground is literally a logical fallacy and we should be dismissing it as such. Great video!

[mhmlesbian]

I used to be subscribed to jubilee back when it started blowing and i began to realize how like moderate it was. It would for example put transphobes and trans ppl in the same room and give them an equal platform. Transphobes would spew their discriminatory ideology and trans people had to sit there and it framed it as a simple debate and both sjdes were just two sides of a debate as if it wasnt trans peoples rights and personhood being talked about

[chusty]

YES! This. I had this problem for a long time with Jubilee's debates. They are many times confronting opposing ideas and positions in a way they seem to be equivalent or equally valuable. They once confronted flat-earthers with non flat-earthers. Got me really angry, because that sends the message that those are both valid theories that should look for coexistence or some middle ground. I'm sorry, but no. They are not equivalent. One is a scientifically consolidated theory and the other one is long-ago-refuted bullshit. To confront them like that is even insulting to scientists. Ideas that are harmful, hateful or unscientific should not be put on the same level as the others. It sends a very dangeorus message, it normalizes those ideas.

[witchbitchgirl]

"If we extend unlimited tolerance even to those who are intolerant, if we are not prepared to defend a tolerant society against the onslaught of the intolerant, then the tolerant will be destroyed, and tolerance with them. We should therefore claim, in the name of tolerance, the right not to tolerate the intolerant." - Karl Popper

[spiffygroove]

I’ve never known how to put the discomfort I feel towards “centrist” ideology to words, but this video did a fantastic job of verbalizing my feelings. It places hate on the same level as someone saying “hey I deserve to exist” and acts as though each are equal arguments. For example, there was one video (I’m not sure if it was Jubilee or some copycat) where they had incels debate feminists and it framed incel ideology as if it was as common and valid as feminism rather than a vocal minority. It always rubbed me the wrong way but I wasn’t sure why until now. Love the video as always!!!

[silence]

Bruh, I love to watch Juiblee when I'm alone and isolated in my room, I get drunk and binge-watch their videos and argue with the screen, say things out loud like "you're such an idiot, what a dumb opinion, that's totally not correct". That's fun af

[artemiskotsomitopoulou]

This video instantly reminded me of Karl Popper's "paradox of tolerance"; if a society is tolerant without limit, its ability to be tolerant is eventually seized or destroyed by the intolerant.