What the Greeks actually eat (the Blue Zones are a myth)

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[georgeborb]

I am a greek from a blue zone, mountain region of Crete and also coast, it's very close to each other 😉. We eat exactly like the girl says. On mainland Greece they eat more pork than lamb and goat but we have all one in common: We take our calories from fat. Olive oil, dairy, fatty meat and sardines. The people in my place are mostly herders and eat almost only fatty meat and they are the leanest people you have seen. We eat fruits but only to a small amount. A traditional breakfast is a cigarette and a coffee so we practice intermittent fasting hahaha.

[tomascalvo]

I like how Dr. Saladino doesn’t interrupt his guests like other interviewers do.

[alphacause]

In my opinion, the ultimate barometer of whether a person understands the pitfalls of nutrition research, and the shortcomings of epidemiology in particular, is the amount of faith they place in The Blue Zones. The more faith they have that The Blue Zones edifies a plant based position, the greater their ignorance. Thank you Dr. Saladino and Ms. Ruddick for illustrating how suspect the conclusions are derived from The Blue Zone studies.

[michalis]

Goat is absolutely NOT the ordinary meat we eat in Greece, neither are organs. They are eaten on special occasions. We eat mostly pork followed by chicken and beef. And always tomato/cucumber greek salad and bread

[liakosnek]

Hello, Greek here. I don't know where she went but we eat pasta, legumes, potatoes, cow dairy and of course pork and lots of bread, just so you know

[henrikmadsen]

Boy this girl SHINE! More than Paul even - and that’s NOT easy! 🤗🤗 to you both! Henrik / Denmark 🇩🇰

[richardmiddleton]

You get a huge amount of Vitimin D living in Greece I bet, that has to play a big part in their health.

[carolpdx]

Not really true. they do eat quite a bit of carbs. Pita and other breads, pasta, backlava, fruit, honey, potatoes, . They eat lots of chicken and pork, eggs, yogurt, feta cheese, butter, olive oil, chickpeas, coffee. The biggest difference is that they don't have many PROCESSED FOODS. They tend to bake with honey more than other countries. They also have an abundance of organic foods, especially in the more rural areas. And it's not just the food. Many of the small villages don't have many cars, are hilly, and people walk everywhere, and get more SUNSHINE. They are family oriented and have a more supportive social structure. It is the whole LIFESTYLE, not just DIET.

[nikosdimitrakakis]

"Over the last 40 years, meat consumption in Greece has increased dramatically. Back then, the respective Greek baby boomers would typically eat red meat only 2-3 times/month. The generations before the Greek baby boomers, whom the researchers identified in the blue zones, used to eat meat even more rarely, just a few times per year. This was mainly because the majority of the population could not afford it. Different types of meat are popular in different regions of Greece. I grew up in Macedonia (the real one), in the northern part of Greece. In my region, beef and pork account for 90% of the meat consumption, and lamb is particularly popular during Easter. Goat and lamb are more popular in other parts of Greece. Our diet also includes significant amounts of olive oil. I don't remember my parents ever cooking with butter. We also consume a great deal of dairy, legumes, vegetables, and fish."

[Bigmoosebelly]

I keep hearing iron overload and yet she ate pork liver daily for the summer? Is this an overblown issue?

[COLDMKULTRA]

This is so ... provably ... Historically correct ! ... splendid stuff!

[IIVVBlues]

Interesting. I was never in Greece, but I lived a couple of years in Switzerland and Northern Italy, a little more than 50 years ago. In Switzerland the cuisine was very similar to American households. No fast food as such, but lots of breads and sausages. Sauerkraut was a common side dish. In Italy the staple was pasta and bread with very small portions of meat. Pork was the mainstay. Olive oil was ubiquitous and served with every meal. Meat of any kind was very expensive and this was reflected in the portion size. A "Mediterranean Diet" in those days was a slice of bread with cafe latte for breakfast, pasta with various cheese and tomato sauces for lunch and wine for lunch and for dinner they often served an antipasto of cheese and cured meats (mostly pork) with olives followed by a meal of pasta or rice with a small portion meat or fish. About half the time they also served soups for both lunch and dinner (Chicken and vegetable with small noodles was most common) Desert was usually a sweet pastry.
I remember very few obese Italians, but I attribute that to the portion sizes. Their diet was entirely slanted towards carbs.
My grandmother lost her leg to diabetes which turned gangrenous and eventually killed her. My dad, same as my grandfather died of heart attacks. I'm in my 70s now and mostly carnivore.

[exoticspeedefy]

You do realize they ate more vegetables back in the older times than they do now, also they have more heart disease now. on ikaria they do have a period of fasting where they abstain from eating meat and eat only vegetables that's a tradition

[joelunchbucket]

How can we prepare ourselfs, in case we're mandated or blackmailed into vaccinations? Someone suggested to load up on vitamin-d and quite heavy loads of saturated fat a few week prior to the shot and a few weeks after, could be protective against bad side effects. Would that make any sense.

[tasostheodorakos]

anybody who comes to greece must try ''kokoretsi'' !!! the ancients called it ''plekto'', it's in homer. What is it ?? sheep organs wrapped with intestines !!! i love it !!!

[ellemelbaus]

Dr Saul Newman, a researcher at the Australian National University, has written a paper debunking the blue zones.

[The_Scouts_Code]

I got confused with "Ikaria" and "in Korea" at first...

[Paperdoll-]

I would love it if you would talk about hormones.

[joey-bladez]

What are your thoughts on olive oil? Is it dangerous in regards to linoleic acid?

[henrikmadsen]

@Saladino, or anyone who knows: I would really will LOVE to know: 1. What is their BMI?? Lower than average sapiens?? (I think staying slim is maybe more important than what you eat - backed by Danish professor Tjønnelund). And 2. How much do they MOVE around?? More than average sapiens?? (maybe longevity benefits of moving more). And 3. How STRESSED do they feel?? Less than average sapiens?? (I believe there is more to longevity than what we eat).