Who Benefits From a Protracted Ukrainian War?

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00:00 - Introduction
02:18 - Is NATO/West Pushing for More Disaster?
04:56 - What are Putin's Objectives?
13:47 - NATO/West Objectives
18:50 - Peoples Movement in Ukraine
24:24 - Nuclear Weapons
35:18 - Russian Public Opinion
44:21 - Are Negotiations Possible?
48:35 - Conclusion

[treefrog]

The expression "willing to fight to the last Ukrainian" says it ALL. If just once in modern time Americans were faced with fighting an actual blood n' guts war on their own turf, we would have a totally enlightened perspective on what war actually is. To most American citizens it is an abstraction, an "unpleasant" aspect of world affairs. It is something they read and hear about on their TV's, often with a skewed and propagandistic self-righteousness. Wars are started by politicians and fought with the genuine blood n' guts and misery of real people.

[PawelKOtrebski]

Basically everyone speaks Russian in Ukraine... This whole situation is bizarre and we will only find out in 20 years what really caused this whole mess

[andrewmallory]

Hard to find anything thoughtful in the MSM - thought I never consume it any more - prefer not to be disinformed. This was great analysis. Thanks for doing what you do.

[macrosense]

The United States has two options. Option 1: normalize relations with Russia and restrain tensions with China to dull rivalry. Option 2: escalate tensions and hostility with both Russia and China simultaneously. I guess there is a third option, but that involves a nuclear Holocaust. If the U.S. chooses option 1, this would require the U.S. encouraging the Ukraine to accept most of the Minsk proposals.

[minniewipster]

The Iraq had the US's approval to attack Iran and when Iraq let Washington know about their intent to attack Kuwait, Bush said nothing. Not a very good analogy with the current situation.

[anarchisticauthoritarian]

"What is this all about?" "Define your goals."
I thought about that for a while now. It seems to me, that this war is used to manage the next big economic crisis. Several years of Covid economy must be dealt with. So the only thing that matters now is "more". We need to sell more oil and weapons, we need to have more news headlines, and need to consume more of everything. The line has to go up! Otherwise financial-capital could be destroyed and that must be avoided at all cost. It doesn't really matter what is consumed (including lives) as long as the financial-capital holders feel safe about their capital again. So we throw sh** at the wall and see what sticks. If it is Inflation, War or State oppression. It is all just a tool to make the rich and powerful feel safe about their position in society again. Financially and politically.

[stavroskarageorgis]

I enjoyed no part of this interview. I still "liked" it and I'm a subscriber.

[knightalexius]

Absolutely no justification? What about the daily shelling of the Donbas since 2014? What about the imminent attack on Donbas (the shelling had been extremely intensified and there had been amassed at least 60000 soldiers in the Donbas which were the best troops of Ukraine)? What about the right to preemptive (in contrast to preventive) war and the responsibility to protect that are both parts of international law? Ukraine had become a de facto member of NATO (John Mearsheimer). NATO trained, equipped, and increased the Ukrainian military and made it the second-strongest in Europe, after Russia.

[joaomartins]

Mr. Paul Jay your comments are more and more inane. First simply stupid psychologizantes considerations. Then abstract legal considerations. When you assert that the Russian president has a personality x and that there has been a violation of the law, you have not made much progress in the intelligibility of what is happening. Of course such assertions can comfort you but they will never allow you to understand what is at stake. Greetings

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00:00 - Introduction
02:18 - Is NATO/West Pushing for More Disaster?
04:56 - What are Putin's Objectives?
13:47 - NATO/West Objectives
18:50 - Peoples Movement in Ukraine
24:24 - Nuclear Weapons
35:18 - Russian Public Opinion
44:21 - Are Negotiations Possible?
48:35 - Conclusion

[eyeheartvideogames]

No justification but there is provocation

[mickshmelmo]

Natural resource supplying nations will heavily benefit from this, particularly Canada. Next to Russia in almost every exported natural resource in volume is Canada.

[jamesmurphy]

Look at the NATO military bases in Poland and ask yourself what Ukraine would look like in ten years
We the American Imperium would be in a good situation to do a
First Strike with nuclear bunker missiles

[jamesmurphy]

Scott Ritter viewpoint sounds more reasonable

[robertlautt]

Really Paul? No justification for invasion? US backed coup, NATO funding arming training Nazis, piling on sanctions? As you argue for US bullying and regime change operations, at least frame with facts.

[Federico.el.Noruego]

All wars are senseless and we know who suffers always!!!

[petermclaren]

Patrick Cockburn bored the pants of me.

[qave]

No reason to use nukes in Ukraine when they're winning already. And fallout would flow back to Russia. Now if NATO actively participates then different story.
Jay could talk to Barnes or Ritter regarding how this would play out in a legal court room

[adamhbrennan]

Good question - does actually being against a war necessarily entail being against fighting it?

[rustyjohnson]

There is justification but it's desperate and hideous.