Seventh Day Adventists - David Pawson (Cults and Sects Part 1)

Teaching series "Cults and Sects" by David Pawson.

David Pawson (1930 – 2020) is considered to be one of the world’s finest biblical expositors. Translations of David’s teachings continue to grow with extensive projects currently focused in countries including Brazil, Germany, Czech Republic, Hungary, China and Indonesia, just to name a few.

David was passionate about teaching the Bible and believed every teacher has a responsibility to expound the truth and expose error. He encourages everyone to read the Bible for themselves, not verse by verse but to read each verse in the context in which they were written. Too many people misquote Bible verses by taking them out of context. David teaches that a ‘text out of context becomes a pretext’ to a whole new and wrong meaning to that for which the verse was written.

[AcademyApologia]

Seventh-day Adventists who are baptized believers in Adventist doctrine (28 Beliefs) are not Christian. Adventism teaches doctrines which are cursed in the bible. For example, the Adventist gospel message of 3 Angels Messages is not found in the bible and according to Gal. 1:6-9 this gospel is cursed. A church which preaches a gospel which is cursed is not Christian. Adventism is not Christian and not part of the larger Protestant Christian community.

Galatians 1:6-9: I am astonished that you are so quickly deserting him who called you in the grace of Christ and are turning to a different gospel not that there is another one, but there are some who trouble you and want to distort the gospel of Christ. But even if we or an angel from heaven should preach to you a gospel contrary to the one we preached to you, let him be accursed. As we have said before, so now I say again: If anyone is preaching to you a gospel contrary to the one you received, let him be accursed.

[bmom]

I studied the sabbath ONLY from the Bible and here is a few points only from the Bible:
1 Sabbath was not for Jews but all christians.God made it holy in Eden before the Jews existed.
2 He made it holy by resting.
He was not tired.He set an example for everyone calling themselves His followers.He never rested on Sunday.Jesus even in His death kept sabbath by resting in the grave on sabbath.Jesus rose and continued His work on Sunday.An example for us to work on the first day.He doesnt change sabbath from the seventh to the first day because He rose.His followers kept sabbath still 40years after He went to heaven.He would at least gave one verse in the Bible if He told His disciples to change it because He rose.
3 Sabbath commandent begin with remember..because He knew later christians will forget His day.
4 The sabbath commandment is repeated most of all of Gods commandment, so obviously it is important to Him.
Over 300 times, even in NT
5 God says it is His 'sign' (Eseg.20:20)So what will His enemies 'sign'be?
6 The sabbath is part of Gods 10 commandments and is not 'nailed to the cross'only the ceremonial laws was nailed to the cross.
7 Yes the Jews made alot of their own laws for sabbath, but that still doesnt change Gods day.
8 Finally...God is God the Creator.He gets to choose His sabbath day not us.
If we want to honor Him we should show it by keeping His commandments

[justinchamberlain]

Thank you for uploading this!! It’s so frustrating that other channels took these videos down! He had a video presentation before that was on YouTube but I guess you could only get the audio version? Any chance of getting the video version as well?

[reidveryan]

Jesus has been sitting at the right hand of the Majesty on the high since his assension because he is king of kings and Lord of Lords.

[PavelMosko]

This speaker is way too nice describing Adventist doctrines as being "orthodox", that they "accept the creeds" and so on. The "pioneers" of Adventism were heretical semi-Arians and Arians. The current Adventist church has been gaming orthodox Protestants since the 1950s with their "Questions on Doctrine" book and later Ecumenical efforts. Adventists are not truly orthodox, they are Tri theists, and got Arian ideas concerning the Trinity. They only embraced the term "Trinity" in the 1980s and that was because they realized it was a handy term to promote their church with. The Adventist Trinity is not the Trinity of the Nicene creed but a "heavenly trio" of 3 beings united in common cause.


The big problem is Adventists are too good at learning the buzzwords of a particular person like Walter Martin (Kingdom of the Cults) so they come off looking much better than they truly are doctrinally. It is like a theological version of "neurolinguistic programming"". This is definitely one of those "Devil in the Details" kinds of things.


Besides this Adventism is caught between "serving two masters". While Adventists want to be accepted by other Christians and often play down all the Ellen White stuff, they still got to keep their historic Adventist distinctives and those distinctives are at odds with everything the rest of Christianity stands for. So in the end this makes for a lot of passive aggressive legalism and proselytization, of them oscillating between wanting to be accepted by you to wanting to brainwash you to their side.

[comfortmarthaoginuche]

Grt msg thank you LORD i will never stop searching for deep understanding of the word of God, i no longer go to any church for now, i prefer to have very deep knowledge of the word of God and good relationships with my father God

[MichaelJohnson-cmwp]

The SDAs believe that the law today is still in force ..That by "fulfilling" them as Jesus stated at the beginning of His Ministry..Not to end them..
So when Paul was going around to all the far away synagogues explaining the Gospel, why did the people..rabbis..judges etc. get so upset at Paul..
If Paul was saying that the law was still in full force and effect, why did the people of the synagogues throw Paul into jail and beat him..

Because Paul was "reasoning" to them that the law had come to an end..That a New Gospel of Grace and been created at the Death Burial and Resurrection of Jesus Christ..The Promised Messiah!!
And the people of the area didn't believe Paul..Most of the letters that Paul wrote was when he had a lot of time while sitting in a jail cell with chains on his feet..
If Paul was saying that the law was still active, then the people would have greeted him as a friend..But Paul's message was rejected..

[sarah]

We actually need to diffentiate between Ellen white and the bible. As an Adventist, I have never heard anyone say that we read g White books in the place of the bible. The issue of investigative judgement, death and sabbath are issues in the bible.

[victorw]

KJV Revelation 14:12 Here is the patience of the saints: here are they that keep the commandments of God, and the faith of Jesus.

[Mr.Pennington]

No where in scripture does it say Christians changed the sabbath to sunday. What evidence is there sunday is the Lords day? History shows it was Constantine than "thought to change" it.

[danmurray]

Very interesting teaching on how the SDA movement came about… shame about the misunderstanding and teaching about the Sabbath though. It’s not an Ellen G White theory, it’s a command and a blessing to from our Father in heaven in which Yeshua/Jesus said he is Lord of. Of course 1st century believers kept the sabbath! Just because the NT mentions they met on the first day of the week (which is in fact a very poor and misleading translation, it actually translates first day from Sabbath) does not nullify the fact that they rested and worship on Shabbat. May Father open up the eyes of His people on this matter, as it says in Isaiah, that we may learn to delight on His holy day 😊 and for the record, I’m not an SDA, blessings in Messiah all who may stumble over this comment

[judithirizarry]

He's a great storyteller. Unfortunately, he doesnt explain the deeper meaning or interpretation of bible prophecy since SDAs interpretation of Bible prophecy does not only focus on the book of Daniel, or even Revelation. What he calls sheer speculation can in fact be explained and verified with the Bible itself. Our doctrine through much study, has found that the entire Bible supports bible prophecy and we are well aware of the mistakes made by the early church's interpretation of Bible prophecy. Through the revelation of the the holy spirit those mistakes were corrected and have a complete picture of Bible interpretation.
Unfortunately, this is not a Bible study whereby Bible truths can be explained in greater detail.
His claim that the SDA religion is a cult has no supportive bearing. His errors and interpretations are NOT based on bible truths....

[sarah]

Just do enough bible study pliz. If the sabbath was changed to Sunday, pliz quote the verse. the issue of pope is not an Ellen white issue. All reformers including Martin Luther alluded to it extensively

[jandelavega]

The 6 pm to 6 pm Sabbath observance is regional. As a child growing up Adventist, we always kept the Sabbath from sundown Friday evening until sundown Saturday evening.

[jbontregor]

Thirteen minutes in and too many inaccuracies concerning SDA history. Note: I’m a former baptist, turned non-denominational evangelical, turned Adventist. I know the history and have read it straight from the original sources…this is inaccurate.

[sarah]

Issues not very clear. U seem to be drifting from the microphone

[couragechitende]

@11:00 that's where you lost it, Daniel 8:14 says "the sanctuary shall be cleansed", this cleansing was done once a year, Leviticus 16, when the High priest entered the most holy place once a year, so did Jesus entered the most Holy to cleanse the sanctuary as after 2300days of Daniel. It's super clear.

[charynfrances]

I'm very hesitant to call them true believers when Jesus himself said he did not know the or the hour of His coming, only the Father knows, see Matt. 24.36, 42 & ff. Also the Scripture says that no prophecy is of any private interpretation, 2 Pet 1 v 20. It's another seductive lie offering a false sense of security. Don't go near it.

[scrispin]

Greatest PITFALL of SDA, considering Ellen G White as a Greatest Prophet who's prophesies FAILED miserably. Then How we could accept her organization as True one inspite of following Shabbat? to all our surprise, Elohim never raised a single " woman Prophet" in the Biblical time ( OT & NT) till the book of revelation, ofcourse there are very very few women prophets in the local church.However according to I cor.14, Women must be silent in the Church . So SDA inspite of defending the Shabbath Day, it is involved mainly promoting E G White as a Great Prophet. All their social works are appreciated, However it is also similar to Roman catholic services ( even though they are highly appreciated), we must accept the CORE DOCTRINAL ERROR of RC and SDA.

[truthingrace]

I absolutely love this man's message and his passionate love. However, he is a bit wrong on some of the doctrines of sda and they are further removed from orthodox Christianity than he realizes. I love sda as they are my family and many are children of God but the organization as a whole is not Christian.