Level Echoes Efficiently! Substat Odds Revealed in Wuthering Waves

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The first part of this video includes an important tip on how to upgrade echoes so you save on materials, and the second part lists ALL the possible substats you can roll along with their estimated probabilities. I hope the information helps and don't feel bad if you don't have perfect echoes yet or even any pieces with crit, I barely have any myself and I've been farming every day. Let me know in the comments if you have any questions!

0:00 Intro
0:23 Echo EXP tip
1:34 Echo Recommendations
2:52 Echo Next Steps
3:57 Cost 1 Echoes
4:17 Cost 3 Echoes
5:00 Cost 4 Echoes
5:34 Echo Substats Intro
5:56 Echo Substats Ranges
6:11 Echo Substat Probabilities
6:36 Outro

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For those wondering how much potential double CRIT pieces you are losing out on by only upgrading to +5, +10, etc, I simulated upgrading 1, 000, 000 echoes assuming there was equal chance of getting each TYPE of substat, and here's what I found:

- around 12.8% of the pieces had BOTH CR and CD
- if you trash echos after +5 that don't roll crit, you lose ~60% of potential double crit pieces (5.2% chance for double crit)
- if you trash echoes after +10 that don't roll crit, you lose ~30% of potential double crit pieces (9% chance for double crit)
- if you trash echoes after +15 that don't roll crit, you lose ~10% of potential double crit pieces (11.5% chance for double crit)
- if you always level to +20 you won't ever miss out on potential double crit pieces, but it requires a lot more resources

In general though, because there are other useful substats in this game besides crit, such as ER, ATK%, flat ATK, bonus dmg%, etc, as long as you don't roll HP or DEF on the first few rolls I think you can level up your echoes to +15 or +20.

SweetilyVT
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Dear Diary, it's been 7 days since the last crit dmg substat. I'm all out of tuners and exp. I don't know if i can survive any longer...

emperman
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I didn't realize the exp required between 20-25 is that much compared to 1-20. Thanks for this info!

mostpolitebot
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Thank you Sweetily for the useful info. I am so glad I've been playing WuWa casually and let y'all figure out the efficient farming tricks for people like me lol.

fpkeqing
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I did not expect that voice when I clicked the video, not gonna lie, but it had me smiling for a solid chunk of it. I like the pace and the actual quality of the content.

Nero
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Holy lvl up materials from 20 to 25 is insane Thanks for this account saving tips

kerontv
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I dont think ive ever watched a spreadsheet video with such a calm and soothing voice behind it thanks for all the stats and also for the calming info dump i really like this form of explanations got a sub from me lol

rourkebrieno
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one thing to consider for F2P is do not copy yet the CCs rerolling for substats,

Upgrade and use the echoes with right Mainstats even if bad substats. With the limited resources do no be picky YET, or you'll lose some percentage of your upgrade mats by rerolling substats at this point.

reroll if you already upgraded enough echoes.

qpszgrm
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As a Danjin stan, that outro is the icing on the cake 👌

slycepeetza
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This is the video I desperately needed since I was having trouble understanding the echo system. Thank you for the guide Sweetily!

ExpelParadise
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Small information which can be really usefull if you're going step by step in the upgrade. You can not only recycle echos by feeding them but also from the inventory which gives the exp as capsule.

Aythos
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thankss for all of your hard work and detailed data keeping..! The leveling tips and how to extend the use of our limited echo mats are super useful, and thanks for keeping in all of your thoughts and notes on healthy expectations and mindsets (and for your sacrifices omg the dreamless ahaha ) as well as all of the little tips and recommendations everywhere throughout the video! it was really interesting learning a lot of this and it was really helpful..!

Kryesh
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You made the prime point that I keep telling people; We're still early in the game, don't overly stress about finding the absolute perfect echoes or running out of exp for them. As World Level goes up, you'll get more exp and echoes can be farmed endlessly. Also content is pretty easy right now (gets harder later). Good video!

lv.uplife
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Completely unrelated, i really like your voice.

qdvrugq
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Yep, I'm going to leave the the pain of farming "perfect" substats for later, very informative thank you.

juanlife
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Incredible findings!
Thank you so much for the work you do for the community ❤

JinJinxandTuna
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Finally got to hear your real voice at healing damage bonus.

emplore
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I was losing so much motivation on tuning for crit dmg and after watching this video, I instantly get back farming again. Not mostly because of her guide .. but becuz of her angelic voice that blessed my hopeless ass. I greatly thank you for that Lily<3

rizme
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My shrimp brain cant comprehend all this but surely this will help me in the future

realkenxo
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I’ll start mine/maxing my builds once I hit union level 40, it’s gonna make everything easier. Just focusing on main stat at the moment has been working for me. Thanks for the video, I didn’t know getting echos from 20 to 25 was so expensive.

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