Grigori Rasputin - LIES - Russian History - Extra History

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Welcome Extra Historians to Lies, where we talk about the mistakes we made and the details we couldn't quite squeeze into the episode properly. What happened to Rasputin's kids? Did he have massive influence with the Romanov family? And what is the difference between an Emperor and a Czar?

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Timestamps!
0:00 - Recommended Reading/General Questions
5:06 - Episode 1
10:56 - Episode 2
14:37 - Episode 3
17:18 - Episode 4
21:42 - Next on Extra History
22:53 - Ibn Battuta Side Trip

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7:56 "... apparently mauled by a bear at some point..." In most people's lives, "mauled by a bear" would be more than a simple footnote.

euansmith
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Also Rasputin gave us Hellboy when he opened that portal to the great beyond.

mnemonija
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9:18 Castration does not raise your voice. However, it can prevent your voice from deepening if done before purberty. But after your voice drops, it will have no effect

ecurewitz
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Holy cow! Rasputin's daughter needs a movie in her own right!

werwolfnate
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Rob, I hope everything with your daughter is okay. I myself had to go through major heart surgery when I was four, and I know from their descriptions that it was really, really scary. Modern medicine has come a long way in recent years so I have no doubt she was in safe hands, but I still hope you're doing alright.

gwenward
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Thank you for not falling into the far too common trap of romanticising the Romanovs, just because they and their children met a tragic end. Nicholas was a disastrous ruler and a narrow minded bigoted person. His wife was not much better. I will say your series on Rasputin did make me understand a bit more how they could have been so clueless about his character because there were so many lies and exaggerations early on, one can understand they just stopped listening after a while.

MariaVosa
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I like this channel for this reason they go back and tell you stuff they didn't and they correct themselves

blazingbugs
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I remember in highschool I felt like there were large parallels between Nicholas and Charles the first of England. I think looking back on it, it was probably just that they were the only two people we studied that paralleled the other at all. But, they are still two men who were considered weak in the context of their militaristic and often hyper-masculine societies, who had been told that strength was best shown through divine right in tyranny. And yet, both had this humanizing characteristic of being truly caring family men in an age where (at least for people of their class) marriage was for political profit, rather than love.

chazsaw
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I seriously love your analysis of the Romanovs… so fun to think through.

zanewolf
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OMG, a Brazil episode!! As a brazilian, I'm so happy to hear about it 😍

flaviaaghata
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Is lies anyone else’s favorite part of each series?

laptiger
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I adore your ability to piece together this historical myth/legend/story from the writings available...yet never a metion of Tartaria and his arrival in history just after the erasing....

RobertoClementeSanchez
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I would love it if you guys did a video about Navajo and the other Native American tribe Code Talkers in WW2 next month. Its kind of surprising that you guys haven't done a video on that subject before.

gotyagaming
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Lucy Worsley did an amazing mini series for BBC on the whole 300+ year Romanov dynasty. There were actually some of their ancestors who acted as great modernisers like Peter and Catherine

Calzaki
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One of my favorite images that exists is photo of Maria Rasputin in the 1970s with author Patte Barham (who helped her write one of the biographies of her father), and Phyllis Diller. According to Barham: "When I introduced Phyllis to Maria as Rasputin’s daughter, she said, 'Was he really a mad monk or just a drunk?' With that, Maria burst into laughter, with her interpretation of Phyllis Diller’s trade-mark laugh,  AHA HAAH

RukoHanaji
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If anyone has about 2 hours per every one of these episodes, the podcast Unobscured by Aaron Mahnke is doing Rasputin right now. They have two episodes out and Rasputin hasn't even met the Romanovs yet.

Onorine
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I love the combination of recommended reading (or watching in this case) with the curiositystream partnership, felt a lot more genuine than some sponsorship integrations with curiositystream even though I am generally a fan of the service.

bananatassium
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The title of Ceasar is often considered higher than king too and is often just a synonym for Emperor. After all, the German title Kaisar which is derived from Ceasar (If you know your classical Latin pronunciation it makes even more sense). And it is the title of the Emperor of Germany. Note that Germany also had kings. Kaisar Wilhelm II was also the King of Prussia.

Naturally all titles are fluent. And depends on who is using it. Sometimes it is a straight translation. Sometimes it is more of a comparison between equal titles. The current only Emperor, for example, The Emperor of Japan, has in his native tongue the title of Tennō. But that title is not used for any emperor, from what I understand. So it get complicated quite quickly.

The reason as I understand it why Russia Monarchs wanted to emphasize the title Emperor over Tzar has more to do with Westernization. To be treated as a equal on the world stage and not as a backward country, which Russia was often seen as.

Cythil
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Just one thing from Poland, Caterine the Great, never used the title of Tzar of Poland, non of Russian Tzars ever did, she couldn' t because of agremment with Prussia and Austia, that non of them will use royal title of ruler of Poland, she used title like Grand Duchess for smaller domeins thou, the title of King of Poland was not restored and tied to Tzars till Congress of Vienna in 1815, when Kingdom of Poland was created and put in personal union with Russia, after downfall of November Uprising of 1831(we deposed Tzars as Kings of Poland for a brief moment, because well we lost😒) the Kingdom was absorbed into Empire, and the Romanovs used the title symbolically for the rest of their rule as Tzars of Russia.

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THE BRAZILIAN EMPIRE IS A GREAT TOPIC IT WOULD BE AWESOME IN EXTRA HISTORY!!
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