Jordan Peterson - The Tyrannical Father And The Devouring Mother

Psychology Professor Dr. Jordan B. Peterson describes ideologies as fragmentary mythology.

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[Mephistopheles]

Indeed, in Kaiser Soze speak, "The greatest trick the Devil played was convincing the world he didnt exist" Lo behold the devouring mother.

[thephilosophersstoned]

I was raised by the Tyrannical Mother figure. Let me assure you; the world has no lack of people who do not realize the archetype even exists.

[kokomanation]

The devouring mother seems like she does everything because she cares about her child but she just uses it for her own purposes and eventually destroys the poor kid

[davedoe]

I was raised by a devouring mother, and she pushed dad to be a tyrannical father. He did what he did thinking that mom would finally treat him well if he only did what she wanted.

But she was never satisfied.

[BitesizedPhilosophy]

Books mentioned:
Erich Neumann, The Great Mother
Erich Neumann, The Origins and History of Consciousness
Carl Jung, Symbols of Transformation
Jordan Peterson, Maps of Meaning

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"I thought of ideologies as fragmentary mythologies. That's where they get their archetypal and psycholical power."
My favorite quote from the full conversation.

His Maps of Meaning goes way deeper into that topic, this interview is getting lots of new viewers,
so here is the playlist to the full Maps of Meaning (my favorite) course:

Lecture #9 talks specifically about the archetype of the tyrannical father and the devouring
mother in ideologies:

[jrddoubleu]

Maternal narcissism is a serious problem now that they've institutionally promoted the removal of fathers from the family unit.

[colonelradec]

i had both. so i came out weak and abused and been trying to change for 20 plus years. tyrannical father with 0 respect. treated like shi forever. then my mom over protected from everything else. if i didnt do my homework she would. if i needed money i had it.

abused by one parent babied by the other. but she abused too in some ways to me. by enabling my father. she saw how he treated me but always had a defense or rationalization.

now im mid 30s still. stillll trying to change who and how i am.

[AHK]

I feel like in our case (my siblings and I) the tyrannical father gave birth to the devouring mother.

[joshtabones]

This video literally describes the relationship I have with my parents

[shreksburgers]

raised by the tyrannical mother, until the tyrannical mother became the devouring mother, and my father turned from the mostly absent father to the tyrannical father, which he still is today. everything must be done according to their idea of "safe and secure, " and i'm not allowed to take any risks they don't approve of. i can only do what they judge to be within their perception of my capabilities. failure to do so results in yelling and endless lecturing. i'm almost fucking 19.

[emanonymous]

So the devouring mother is a book on the feminine collective unconscious?

[robpetrone]

GOD BLESS THIS MAN. He may well yet save Western culture from the depredations of the Left. Avanti, Dr. Peterson! Avanti!

[missxmarvel]

This is why animals in the wild are better parents like the Barnowl, Lioness, Elephant, Dolphin, Emperor penguin. Yet humans claim they are smarter and competent than animals while I’ve seen dogs train their pups to stand on their own feet better than petty overprotective mombies.

[Chebab-Chebab]

I've known about the devouring mother for years, but I never knew it had a name until a moment ago.

[CHSN-]

My mom pretended to coddle me all the while she was trying to bring me down.
lol I went pro in baseball and had to quit because the attacks became so insane. These people are literal monsters

[Human_]

Brilliant man! Absolutely brilliant! 👏✨❤️ Smh. Wow! Spot-on, Mr. Jordan Peterson, ❤🧡

[skatingfae]

I have both a devouring mother and tyrannical father. I can't wait to be able to walk without an open surgical wound site again, whether I'm sleeping behind a bush or have my own place, I am so thee fuck out of here as soon as I can be.

I got to be the scapegoat, the black sheep, for all my familys problems. Since over a decade ago now, I got placed in a psych ward even though I was the one that was being abused and traumatized, I had a psych break as a result while in there, then I ended up in some drug rehab thing when all I did was smoke pot, and both my parents were major alcoholics and potheads, then multiple times I was left homeless and defenseless.

I stil haven't lost hope for my life or hope in other people. Let your and others wicked nature be found out. Once you know your own shadow, you can see the shadows of others quite clearly. You have to keep yourself in check. You have to lead by example in life, as best you can.

My parents never got that, and I won't be inviting them into the lives of my children as a result. They will not live on, through me. I wish it pained me to say this, but a person can only handle so much abuse before they just walk away completely.

[ktefccre]

😢😢😢 devouring mother is a very prevalent archetype in East and South Asian cultures.
What's the solution???

[cyclinggirl]

Not having experienced a devouring mother, part of me maybe would have preferred it if my mother had displayed those traits. The word narcism gets so easily misused by many. Unfortunately, when one looks up the true definition of narcism then goes deeper into the psychology side of narcism it is like I am reading a perfect description of my mother - she ticks every single box, I kid you not. As for my father - he was a tyrant, who also perfectly fits the definition of psychopath. Absolute zero empathy. Both zero empathy however, at least one knows where they stand with a psychopath because they don't play games, games is what a narcissist does to satisfy their hidden inner insecurities. Whereas a tyrannical psychopath just does not care or have time for games. They are direct in their approach. My father is also wealthy and has been incredibly successful in his endeavours which has drawn shallow narcissistic character types to want befriend him.
My mother's hatred of my existence - and telling me so - her constant belittling, mocking, telling me I'm a pathetic loser who'll never amount to anything or find someone who loves me, wants me. Where's my father was cruel as in neglectful, incredibly strict, dogmatic, selfish, materialistic.
Both incredibly attractive, I mean stop you in your tracks attractive and naturally not aesthetically enhanced. My mother still turns heads.
I rebelled. I rebelled from wealth. Lies. Deceit. I can read people's bs a mile off and because of that have chosen to live a much quieter life and if come across these types, I'll give them a chance but then once I walk away, I walk away. The thing is most people misjudge me, they at first think I'm stupid. Life's too short for me to waste on these energy vampires. So now I live a content life with inner peace away from my parents and people with my children and my pets.

[annsparling]

My wife has been devalued in her family. Because she wasn’t a male. I never knew of her trauma at 5 years of age when we married, leaving me with an uninformed decision. She has regressed to alcohol and depression, my daughter is 8 now. Exposed to the same man mom my wife was ruined by. Can you imagine not protecting your 5 year old little girl. She gets molested several times by her grandmas brother. Over the years of her youth she was teased and made fun of because of her trauma. Her father is a big mouth dickless wonder who is a coward to admit he and his wife were neglectful and stupid. Never got her help. Now she’s a mess. So is my baby at 8 and so am I trying to escape this toxic place.