Dead City Episode 2 Breakdown: OLD Negan Is Back!

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The second episode of Dead City saw Maggie and Negan continue making their way through the heart of New York City. We got to see what life is now like in the big apple, the people who live there, how they get around, new friends and enemies and overall setting the stage for the next few episodes.

0:00 - 0:40 - Intro
0:41 - 2:11 - (New) New York
2:12 - 3:32 - Improvised Weapons
3:33 - 4:47 - New Hilltop & Ginny
4:48 - 5:43 - Maggie & Hershel Jr.
5:44 - 6:40 - Armstrong's Backstory
6:41 - 7:32 - OLD Negan Is Back!
7:33 - 10:00 - Negan, Maggie, & The Croat

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[IslandPunchProductions]

I think we butter get some umbrellas... Its about to rain!

[dopeentertainment]

Negans group actually attacked first technically when they tried killing Sasha, Abraham and Daryl. But negan didn't know about that

[crosshair]

I love how the show is basically a big sandbox for Negan to go absolutely wild in. We haven't seen this Negan since season 10 and I'm all for it. #OldNeganIsBack

[rosalindharold]

The tower is where they keep the grain. Maggie said that Croatia had taken all the grain. Jenny also noticed that she had bread to eat. So she figured Maggie lied and That’s why Jennie went to warn Negan because he maybe in danger. I think Maggie is gonna trade Negan for her son.

[MistahJay]

The Croat was kicked out from the Saviors before Negan ever ran into Ricks group so him being in the lineup wouldn't make sense lol Negan himself specifically said "Well before your time". Infact how does he even know about Maggie. I'm going to assume he has people from the old saviors maybe that have told him or his scouts got information somehow.

[whekso]

I thought the Oceanside comment was a lie, because they don’t want to tell the truth about where Ginny came from. And my first thought was the man on the water tower reminded her of her dad.

[mr.goodboi]

This was the best TWDU episode in a long time. I love how they let Negan be brutal but still managed to make him likable. The new writer is a breath of fresh air for these characters.

[Mabran]

i really loved this episode it was great seeing old negan come back for a bit.

[ThiqqOreo]

Usually you hit but you missed on a couple of things. The main thing being "Rick's group attacked first." No. The saviors attcked Rick's group twice before the satellite station incident. There was Timmy and the Dick Bregade, and there was that shoot out with Daryl and I believe Sasha and Abraham.

The second thing is that Ginny isn't actually from Oceanside and the New Hilltop is not located in Virginia. Maggie made up that Ginny was from Oceanside so they would accept her in the community easier.

And finally about the Croat; they can't edit him in the line up scene because he should have been gone by that point. Negan mentions in his story that when he tried to kill him, it was before he met our group and when he made contact with the Kingdom.

[TheTechPoTaToCHIP]

I think you’re slightly overthinking Maggie and Hershel’s strained relationship. Dude acted how literally every other moody teenager would act. I don’t think there’s too much more to it.

I think that scene was there just to show that he isn’t Maggie’s little boy anymore and he’s slowly growing up and becoming more independent. Hopefully this means he’ll have more character beyond being a mcguffin for Maggie and negan to save.

[DiscoBoi]

I'll say this episode was definitely a big improvement over the first and I have a feeling Negan's knock knock scene will be in most people's top 5 Negan scenes. So far Negan has been the best part of the show since Maggie doesn't really do much imo. She mostly serves as the reason for the plot to keep moving as she's trying to save her son.

[DaddyHutJr]

I think the water tower Ginny was looking at is a grain silo, which goes back to when Maggie explains to Negan that the Croat came and took all of their grain. So it’s weird that Ginny is immediately served bread when she arrives to Hilltop.

Though, if this was the case, we should’ve gotten a scene of Negan mentioning it to Ginny on their way up to Hilltop.

[ethanknapp]

The music is great and I’m glad you called it out. Two fun facts about the worst community in the show for those who might care:

- Angela Kang said in Instagram comments at some point that they couldn’t get enough of the actors to film a final Oceanside scene for season 11 and also that Cyndie is alive and was simply on a fishing boat when the Commonwealth raided. I saw it doom-scrolling through the wiki testing my knowledge. I would have preferred them dead and their names added to the memorial, and not having any indication of this even through Lydia verbalizing her mail route is really lame, but whatever.

- Oceanside is allegedly in Maryland. About 60 miles north of Alexandria. This is a good smidge closer than might be intuitive. Hilltop 2.0 could be another reasonable distance north of that? I’m still upset Hilltop 2.0 exists away from the iconic location we know and love - especially since it looked fine in the time jump. I assume it was motivated by logistics which would be lame

[DourFlower]

I really love that when Negan slits the Buraz throat you can see him for a split second making the same expression he made when he told Maggie hes sorry for what he did to Glenn, followed up by the not so subtle moment of him taking glass shards out of his bloody hands.
It really adds to the earlier dialogue of him saying he was only a monster when he had to be and builds on the idea that hes been tortured by the things hes had to do

[megadozo]

You said in the vídeo that they could use a flashback with the croat in the lineup but negan said this episode that he shot croat BEFORE we even met the saviors on the main show.

[jojo]

THE EPISODE WAS ONLY 39 MINUTES??? Damn, it was so good that I didn't even notice.

[AzureRadio]

A lot of the discussion that I am seeing is just thinking that Negan is back to "evil" and completely disregard the fact he doesn't LIKE being that Negan. He does it because no one else can and he is good at it.
He wants to protect the ones he wants to protect and that's the way to do it.
Just like he said, Abraham died because his people were killed in their sleep, and Glenn died because Daryl punched him and couldn't show weakness and had to save face (also keeping his word that the first one was free but he would "shut that shit right down" if they tried anything else).
I really liked this episode for showing how Negan felt about his past self, hashing it out with Maggie, and then her seeing directly WHY he did what he did (to protect her this time no less) but also how much it pained him to do so. He just walks off and says "we need to go", what was there to say, he hates it but it needed to be done and they are alive and able to escape as a result.
Great episode, I hope they keep this momentum and put Maggie and Negan on more level playing field by the end of it.
They will never be real friends, but they can definitely become comrades by the end of it. Maggie is already conflicted because of her hatred. She sees that Negan changed, he saved Hershel before, Judith, Alexandria as a whole, he isn't EVIL, he just did bad shit and is doing his best to repent.

[aaronherrick]

For Oceanside, there was supposed to be a scene in the finale showing that Oceanside survived the attack. It was cut because production issues kept them from being able to film it.

I saw others mention this but, i think that water tower is a grain silo. People believe Maggie could've lied to Negan about the grain since Ginny was served bread. This is because if they had to save grain for the Croat, they might bot be wanting to make much bread

[harold]

Another fantastic episode. I'm actually excited for the next episode of TWD which is the first time I've been able to say that for many years.

[damienveenstra]

Negan said he shot the Croats ear off BEFORE Maggie’s time during a skirmish with the kingdom after the Croat tortured a scout and hasn’t heard about or seen him since until Maggie recruited him in present day