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Why Is Harappan Script Still Undeciphered? Is It Connected To Sanskrit?

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even 5000 years ago those people was writing that just shows how advance the culture, was

[svk]

A South Indian scholar has done a lot of research on this. He calls the language as sasarpari which is a glyph or pictorial script like Egyptian for Samskrit. He has deciphered quite a few findings. He has also published a scholarly book.

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There is only one reason. The Nehruwadi Congress, from day 1, considered everything about Hindutva, Hinduism, Nationalism, etc etc, enemy #1, ( of the Congress and an alternative to rule India) and never financed for 70 years, when they were in power, any significant grants to research on anything remotely concerning Hindutva. So continued the white man's history with a muslim education minister, who was totally unqualified to be an education minister, and together made sure that Hindu Pride Day will never happen in India. Remember this is the same gang, who told Indian President Dr. R.Prasad that he cannot participate in the building opening ceremonies of the new Somnath Temple.

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[krsnanandavt]

The Scripts of India ( PT 2)

In ancient times there were two scripts in India – Bráhmii and Kharośt́i. These two scripts have been found on goat hides from the time of the first Muslim king. They date to pre-Muslim times, making them at least 1500 years old. Bráhmii was written from right to left and Kharośt́i from left to right. Late Kharośt́i died and Bráhmii bifurcated into two scripts – Sáradá, the script of the people northwest of Prayag (Allahabad), and Nárada, which was used in the southwest. These scripts were written from left to right like English. Prayag was the meeting point of Sáradá and Nárada. A third script developed and was known as Kut́ilá script. Since it was developed in Kaosambii, it was also known as Kaosambii script. It was also known as Sriiharśá script since the seal of Shrii Harśa [Harshavardan] was written in this script. It was popular in the east of Allahabad.

Nárada script was also known as Nágarii script due to the domination of Nágar Bráhmańas. After the Gupta period, the influence of Kányakubja Bráhmańas declined and that of the Nágar Bráhmańas increased, hence Nárada began to dominate Kut́ilá script. Previously, the scholars of Kashi wrote in Kut́ilá script, but later, due to the influence of the Nágar Bráhmańas, Kut́ilá disappeared and Nágarii took its position. Kut́ilá used to be the script of the entire eastern portion of India.

Ancient támralipi, or inscriptions written on copper, and shilálekhá, or edicts written on stone slabs, have been found in Kut́ilá script from the time of Harshavardhan, when Kut́ilá dominated. Nágarii came after the Gupta period. During the Mughal period the Kayasthas wrote their official records in a distorted form of Nágarii. Since the Kayasthas wrote in this script, it came to be known as Káyathii. It was popular in east Uttar Pradesh and Bihar. Bhojpuri was written in this script. Of course, the official language of the Mughals was Urdu. There is no diphthong (yuktákśara) in Kayathii, which was used in the courts during the British period. Kayathii has a close proximity to Gujrati script, which used to be found over 70-80 years ago. When the United Provinces of Agra and Avadha was consolidated after the merger of Agra, Avadh and Ruhelkhand, Kayathii disappeared from the courts and Urdu took its place.
The Sáradá or Sárasvata script had three branches – Kashmirii Sáradá, used in Kashmir; Dogrii Sáradá, used in Dvigarta; and Punjabi Sáradá, used in Saptasindhu. Later Urdu was accepted in the Punjab and the Sikh Guru Arjuna Deva developed Guru-mukhi script, however Persian script was more popular. Punjabi contains more tadbhava Saḿskrta words which cannot be written properly in Persian script, so in Punjabi “school” and “station” are “sakool” and “sateshan” respectively. Later Lándei script developed as a distortion of Punjabi Sáradá, and the shopkeepers of the Punjab and Sind would write in it.

Ranabir Singh wanted to popularize Dogrii script in Jammu and Kashmir, which was a Hindu theocratic state. At that time only Brahmans and Sándhivigráhikas (Kayasthas) could be government ministers in Hindu theocratic states. Such a system, however, is not proper, as the state is for all citizens equally. The Brahmans in Jammu and Kashmir favoured Kashmirii Sáradá and were more familiar with Persian script, and due to their influence Dogrii script was not accepted.

Assamese and Bengali horoscopes and books were both written in Sriiharśa script, while in Mithila horoscopes were written in Sriiharśa and books in Nágarii. In Kashmir, horoscopes were written in Sárada. In the Punjab, during ancient times, horoscopes and books were written in Punjabi Sárada, that is, Saptasindhu Sárada, while today horoscopes are written in Punjabi Sáradá and books in Gurumukhii script.

Oriya script used to be written on palm leaves with iron pens. To avoid tearing the leaves, it was written in rounded letters. Bengali, however, was written in angular letters. But on shilálekhá, or edicts written on stone slabs, both scripts are written in an angular style because stone is not easily damaged. Oriya was written in Sriharsh script in circular style or Utkal style, and Sriharsh script was written in angular style or Gaoriiya style.

Sáradá denotes intellect or intellectuality. The script used by the intellectuals of Kashmir was called “Sáradá script”. When the Vedas were first composed, they were passed down from guru to disciple through memorization because script had not yet been invented and so no written record of them could be made. The Vedas are also called “Shruti.” (During the time of the Rgveda there was no script). It became a dogma not to write down the Vedas, and a great portion of the Vedas were lost due to this dogma. Out of nearly one hundred rks, most were lost. The scholars of Kashmir were the first ones to write the Vedas down despite the dogma, and they wrote them in Sáradá script. They wrote the Atharvaveda.(2)

Nárada was the script used in the southwest of Allahabad up to the Gulf of Kachh, north of Bombay. It was invented by the Nágar Bráhmańas of Gujarat, therefore it is also called Nágarii script. Nágarii script derived its name from the Nágar Bráhmańas. These Brahmans started writing Saḿskrta, that is, Devabháśá, in Nágarii, so this script was called “Devanágarii”. Thus Devanagari script came from Gujarat and not from Uttar Pradesh. Gujarati is written in a simple way without a line over the letters. When Saḿskrta was written in this script, lines were also drawn over the letters. This script came to be known as Devanagari script, a specific type of Nágarii.

Kut́ilá is the script used in the east of Allahabad. Since complicated diphthongs were used in this script, it was called “Kut́ilá”. Kut́ila means “complicated”. During the days of King Ashoka, Kut́ilá was the popular script but stone edicts were written in Bráhmii script. After the Gupta period and up to the Pathan invasion of India, the influence of Kányakubja and Saryupáriin Bráhmańas decreased and their position was taken over by the Nagar Bráhmańas of Gujarat. Nágar Bráhmańas were dominant in Varanasi. Consequently, Kut́ilá became less dominant and Devanagari took over its position. Varanasi accepted Devanagari as its script. Some British scholars learnt Saḿskrta in Devanagari when the British came to India. The German scholar Max Mueller also used Devanagari script for writing Saḿskrta. Devanagari became the script of Saḿskrta in this [era], though Saḿskrta has no special script of its own. It is written in several scripts. Paesháchii and Paśhcátya Prákrta abounded in tadbhava or distorted Saḿskrta words. In ancient times human beings wandered like nomads and gypsies. Later they settled down permanently in villages. In Vedic Saḿskrta the word anna is used for staple food and pińd́a for any food. The place where people took food was known as pińd́a + ik = pińd́ik. In Paesháchii Prákrta it became pińd́a. Today in Punjabi pińd́a means “village.” Punjabi contains a lot of tadbhava Saḿskrta words.

There are three scripts in Bhojpuri: Nágarii script is used in the west of Allahabad. Max Mueller wrote the Vedas in Nágarii script which came to be known as Devanagari 800 years ago. Sáradá script is used in the northwest of Allahabad and is 1300 years old. Kut́ilá script is used in the east of Allahabad. It is the script for Oriya, Bengali, Bhojpuri, Maithili, Angika, etc. Bengali is 1100 years old.

The mother tongue of Krśńa was Shaorasenii Prákrta. Later on Vrajabháśá emerged from Shaorasenii Prákrta, and is spoken in the west of Allahabad. Raskhan (a Muslim poet), Rahim and Surdas were the poets of Prákrta. The Agrawalas of Vraja belong to the Vraja area and are not Marwaris. The Muslims of Allahabad speak the Avadhi language. Only the Shiites speak Urdu.
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From: A Scriptological and Linguistic Survey of the World
Published in:
* Discourses on Neohumanist Education

[NikhilUttrakhandi]

Most of the Indians would definitely accept that the "Aryan migration theory" is a myth imposed on us by west. The similarity between the Indian(north Indian) and European languages called indo european languages can easily be due to the fact that the people from the subcontinent would have migrated towards the steppes of Europe rather than the other way round. Now the issue is why we need to connect the Aryan and Indus valley civilization ? can't they both be independent and indigenous but separate civilizations of India ?
You totally ignored the fact that in Balochistan not very far from the Indus valley sites there is a dravidian language spoken called Brahui, which obviously makes us to think about some possible connection of South India and the present day site of Indus valley.
One must think about all the aspects.

[Andyrew]

Some anthropologists claim that horses do not exist in the fossil record of the Indian subcontinent before the so-called Aryan Invasion. Can you address this? Obviously horses were an essential part of chariot warfare described in Sanskrit texts. Why do they make this claim and how to refute it? 🙏🏼

[ranapratapsingh]

Vedic Sanskrit language was present in North India way before 3000 BCE. All the rivers in north India before 3000 BCE have Vedic names. Sarasvathi, Shutudri, Yamuna, Ganga, Sindhu etc are all Vedic names. So are the names of numerous places like Hastinapur ( Delhi), Hariupiya ( Harappa), Indraprastha (Delhi), Swarnprastha (Sonipat), Panprastha (Panipat), Vyaghrprastha (Baghpat) and Tilprastha (Tilpat). RIver names and place names hardly change in the history .

[AlkanandaMohapatra]

We need to excavate the Rosetta Stone equivalent for Saraswati Civilisation

[aryavishwanathan]

You see to be troubled by the possibility of harappan script being related to Tamil. We should let proper research happen to know the truth. Sanskrit, tamil both belong to bharat.

[disappointedindian.]

Very great insight into true#history in less time

[debmalyasaha]

There are 2 point about the so called Harappan civilisation:-

1) It located western frontier of India.
So, there is a probability of some/much influence of outer India, basically Iran & centrel Asia

2) Harappa, Mahenjodaro are very rich and prosporus citis like Morden days Dubai
So, there is a possibility of a cosmopoliton population & culture. It may also possible that the the rich men/ruler of Indus Valley civilisation hire the best architect and best skilled person of other part of India and also other part of world (may be from basically from Iran & Central Asia) like Morden day Dubai.
There is also a possibility when the tred of Indus Valley civilisation was declined. Then the civilisation was also collapsed.

It is like, the thing, If some day the economy of Dubai will collapsed (which may impossible in near future), what happens with Dubai

[krsnanandavt]

Shri P R Sarkar wrote :
:
Aryans Had No Script

The Aryans did not have their own script and thus were first introduced to the [written] alphabet after coming in contact with the Dravidians. The Dravidians of the Harappa and Mahenjodaro civilizations of India were already using a script, the Saendhavii script; after the Aryan migration into India, that script became transformed into the Bráhmii and Kharośt́hi scripts.

The inconvenience that the non-Indian Aryans had faced for want of script no doubt disappeared after the Indianized Aryans learned it, but owing to their old superstitions, most of the Aryans were reluctant to put the Vedas in black and white. They refused to believe that the reason the Vedas were not written at the time of their composition was simply the lack of script. They adhered to their illogical reasoning even after the scripts came into being: they thought that the rśis had not written out the Vedas, one, because it was improper, and two, because the Vedas were named shruti. However, much later, in Kashmiira(2), the Vedas were written down in the Sáradá script in use there at the time. There was really no alternative to writing them down, because there was almost nobody left who knew all the Vedas by heart, and the number of people who knew even parts of them was very small. When the Kashmiira scholars finally did write down the Vedas, it was discovered that many parts of them were missing for good.
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From: Tantra and Indo-Aryan Civilization
Published in:
* Discourses on Tantra Volume One [a compilation]

[vellayanv]

It has been deciphered and it is Tamil, but none than Tamils can understand it. One has to learn Tamil deeply to understand it.