My DRIEST cymbals FIXED

Timecode:
0:00 - The Project
2:59 - Lathing
4:28 - The Foundation Series
6:26 - How they sound (before and after)
8:06 - outro

[Killenmachine]

To comment on your excitement about this channel becoming cymbal oriented, even further, I think you are currently and becoming one of the greatest cymbal smith's of all time, currently saving my pennies towards adding one of your cymbals to my collection, I fully believe your name will be in league with makers like spizzichino ect

[stonytokes]

Wow!I was prepared to be disappointed because I really liked the sound of them before, but those sound INCREDIBLE. And let me cast my vote for as much cymbal content as possible. They've been an obsession of mine for years now. Very glad I found your channel.

[Jimbo]

TBH I'm mildly obsessed with cymbals and the different sounds you can get so I'm cool with a channel about cymbals!

[DrummerPayne]

I'm so in love with the sound of these cymbals. Congratulations on making such a beautiful sounding cymbal.

[tmaddrummer]

Timothy, I honestly like them both before and after; but, with the "after" version, the playing applications available increased tremendously overall. For me, I would love playing these cymbals. Thanks and Blessings, you are truly gifted!

[sthulander]

BIG improvement. Great sound(s): complexity, balance, brightness, good supporting 'wash'.

[ldcsam]

I liked both the "Before" and the "After". Great job both ways.

[happygodrumming]

These are beautiful sounding! You have such a great ear for this, Tim—I suspect that's really what makes your work stand out from the rest. Most excellent, once again! You can bet I'll be ordering one of these too someday!

[AstAMoore]

I think they sound awesome on their own. It would be great to hear them in some musical context, but they way I see them now is they have the perfect blend of complexity, crispiness, darkness, and dryness.

[Wa]

After the fix, those may be the best cymbals I've heard from you, and you have a lot of good stuff so that's saying something. Keep up the great work

[poxcr]

The heavy and controlled character of the original version as well as their clarity and stick definition are mostly lost in the wash after the cymbals were modified. The fixed cymbals sound amazing though, I just think they're completely different instruments. It goes to show the insanely wide range of sonic possibilities you can obtain from the same blanks!

[TheWarthatchangedtheFuture]

Its amazing how after hammering a cymbal, the rest period makes a difference in just a few days, the sound always seems less dryer..

[jonashellborg]

They sound amazing- loving the Foundation series.

[HaydenCustomCymbals]

They sound great! Good job continuing to follow your ear.

[pacoside]

Know that if I go in the market for a real jazz cymbal (and I probably will in the next twenty-thirty years), you are my first cymbal smith I have in mind.

Thank you for the videos as well.

[ivandelvalle]

I would describe these now to be Dark and washy... I love these!

[jre]

Beautiful transformation! These went from 100 year drought dry to just damp enough! Well done.

[sytsew]

Wow they sound amazing now. Funny too that the 20" got a lower pitch than the 22"?! Beautiful!

[Abunchofjoes]

Adding my thoughts as the owner of an (I believe your last?) unmodified 24" Foundation who loves it. This is my third, and favorite, cymbal from you.

The re-lathed ones sound beautiful and richer, and I agree that for general purposes they'll be a solid all-around choice. That said, the new ones are also more conventional and less idiosyncratic instruments that exist in a sonic range where there are a lot of choices. By contrast, the dry version has a distinct voice and musical point of view that is rare and few makers get right. As a lover of more modern styles of jazz and broken time, I thrive on dry cymbals or ones with clean sticking and quick decay, and it's VERY hard to find great ones that still have balance and energy and rich, dark tone. This is one. In fact, I think as dry rides go, these are pretty much in the middle of the road. Many "dry" cymbals, like Turks, can actually still have a fair bit of ring to them. And on the other side of the equation, I personally found the Jack D cymbals rather thin and lifeless. So for the style, these are quite balanced. I can pair this with my even dryer flat and the Foundation will sound relatively lively next to it, or I can mute it lightly and have it play the dry role alongside fuller rides and crashes. I do think 24" is the right size for the dry version of the Foundation, since added size gives it more roundness and complexity; I wouldn't be as keen on this model in a 22" or smaller.

FWIW, even if someone's not generally a fan of dryer cymbals, I believe in a set-up having deep contrasts, where each cymbal has a separate personality, and these really suit that. When you think about how many notes and keys any other instrument in the band has, and contrast that with the fact that like 60-75% of what our bandmates and audiences are going to hear from us is a single ride cymbal note, I think we have the opportunity to give their ears and ours added variety. So I encourage us all to experiment and add something unexpected to our cymbal arrays, which also pushes us to adapt and stretch our playing in new ways.

All of which is to say, even if they're not your own cup of tea, I think the original dry Foundation is a glorious little monster we need more of, and I hope you keep it available if only as a special order.

[seppoinnanen]

Now, those cymbals sound very much like smaller brothers of Istanbul Agop Xist brilliant rides which I like very much. My holy grail has been an over 3500g 24" version, but there doesn't seem to be them on the market here in Europe or there overseas.

The 60's kind of jazz cymbal sound that most of your other cymbals seem to have a strong connection to ( they are very good sounding on their own though) are not for everyone. I think that now you have stepped into a bit more modern, kind of electric jazz era with these new pieces. Great 🙂👍👍