Piper PA-28 Year Model Changes

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Model year changes and differences between the Cherokee PA-28 range of aircraft.
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I did my IFR training in a PA-235. Often the missions would have four people on board: the student pilot, the instructor and other two student pilots also taking the IFR course and learning from observing the other student's IFR lesson. During one of those flights I was in the back, going over approach plates in anticipation of what was going to be done. We were IMC (in cloud), and suddenly the engine started sputtering, just about quitting. It took about 10 milliseconds for us three to kind of yell to the pilot in the left seat, "CHANGE TANKS! FUEL PUMP ON!"

He did as told (not that he'd have to be told, but you never know) and the engine sputtered for a few more seconds and then roared on, as if nothing had happened.

The student + instructor had forgotten to manage the fuel, were merrily flying along in one single tank, and let it run dry. Having the engine almost quit in IMC was one of my scariest moments flying.

coriscotupi
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The PA-28-236 Dakota is a plane to strive for. The lower 2400 RPM redline takes a bit getting used to, but the plane is quiet, and performance is impressive... Fuel capacity was dropped from 84 to 72 Gals for some reason, but fuel management with two tanks instead of four much easier. Interesting and relaxed presentation. Thank you. Enjoyed it.

RichardCampbell-cssr
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I really enjoy your videos! I am confident that nobody at Piper, nor Cessna, know their product lineage as well as you. Watching your channel is very similar to "Jay Leno's Garage". Thank you for sharing your love of airplanes and wealth of knowledge. There are plenty of people doing the "buy this plane, it's perfect" routine and lots of flight instruction type videos, but you're the only one I know of who explains the nuances of model year variations and model evolutions. That's information that is fascinating to myself and can save people from mistakenly purchasing the wrong plane.

SaltyPirate
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Excellent explanation of the differences in the various PA-28 models.

N
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Another very informative video. As a Cessna pilot, I’ve always found Piper nomenclature confusing, but you’ve done a great job explaining the PA-28 series. Many thanks Mark, I always enjoy your videos!

mitchschneringer
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2:40 that poor prop rod on the underside of the cowling never gets used. As a piper guy with time in many different "cherokees" I'll say this was well done

FlyingNDriving
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Man I could listen to you teach anything and it would all go in. Relaxed with a bit of humour, and evidently youre not just parroting something you've read you clearly understand all the differences. Thanks for posting.

philbrammer
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Mark is a walking encyclopedia on all things with wings. He even notices whether the indentation goes in or out. If I'm in the market for a light thing with wings, Mark is the goto guy. Best regards from Malaysia!!

envitech
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This is a really great video. These Cherokees are great little airplanes. Unsung hero’s in the aviation world. The further I get into my aviation career the more I realize how great they are.

monrow
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Can’t thank you enough for the time you take for these Mark.

marcustait
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The -1 has nothing to do with the fuselage, but solely the wing. The fuselage stretch happened somewhere around 1973 or 1974. The -720 in a Queen Air was an STC mod and not original IIRC. And I believe the term you’re looking for in lieu of “dented” is “corrugated.” Lots of crazy differences throughout the run. Great video!

stlflyguy
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I always look forward to your videos. I've loved planes all my life and trained in the Piper Warrior. Only flew a short time as I'm 71 now. Maybe you could answer a lifelong question, why don't Pipers have a second door? If I ever purchased a small plane, it would be a Cessna with two doors. One door is a pain and would be troublesome during an emergency exit, I think. Thanks so much Mark, Merry Christmas. Ted in Sebastian, Florida

tedk
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I had a 1967 Cherokee 140. Was a wonderful little plane.

someone-else-cv
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Wow; this is my kind of channel, specific data, years, even serials and registration patterns are here. Thank you

rembpilot
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I have owned a 1980 236 for 13 years. I learned some new things today!

josephsener
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Great video about not-so -easy defined Piper model lineup. Would like to see non-turbo Dakota one day. I always flew Pipers but manage to find out few things in this video that I never new before, like spring-loaded ailerons or fiberglass tip tanks. Thanks for the great work.

sergeylipovetsky
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Thanks to you, Sir, for the instructive explanation about Piper models in the P.A.28!!!

jorgerefsgaard
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Top Video once again! Loving the content this channel keeps dishing out!

AussieAircraft
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This is one of Mark's vids that I will come back to every once and a while simply because it's so good. Gobs and gobs of info and well presented....Mark at his best. Thx again!

ackack
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Mark I love those 180/ 185 in the hangar but the 235 Piper is always been my favorite low wing aircraft

bernardanderson