Isaiah 7:14 isn’t a prophecy of a virgin birth

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[theophilussogoromo]

Even Isaiah 7 tells us what the sign was for. By the time the child is old enough to descern right and wrong, the two northern kingdoms would be desolate.

[johnloftin]

You are excellent at making this stuff learnable. Very concise with simple explanations. I used to be into apologetics which was a huge let down. Keep up the good work. I haven't yet seen you get angry. That is a hard one for me.

[tomkennar]

Thank you Dan, for a really lucid and helpful explanation. For many years, I have studiously avoided using Isaiah 7 and Matthew's misreading in any Christmas services, for precisely the reasons you highlight. Well done and thank you.

[Nymaz]

Don't forget if Isiah 7 is supposed to be a prophecy the full prophecy needs to be included:
He shall eat curds and honey by the time he knows how to refuse the evil and choose the good. For before the child knows how to refuse the evil and choose the good, the land before whose two kings you are in dread will be deserted. The Lord will bring on you and on your people and on your ancestral house such days as have not come since the day that Ephraim departed from Judah—the king of Assyria.
Please feel free, believers, to explain how this applies to Jesus.

[Exjewatlarge]

Nothing is more inspiring of faith than a willful mistranslation, Dr. Dan.

[hrvatskinoahid]

Here is a Jewish translation: "Therefore, the Lord, of His own, shall give you a sign; behold, the young woman is with child, and she shall bear a son, and she shall call his name Immanuel."

[BobMueller]

Holy crap. Your comment about virginity just blew my mind.

[integrationalpolytheism]

When you've been watching Dan McClellan clips so long that you sometimes get deja vu watching the new ones!

[achildofthelight]

His "name"; his purpose, his ministry, his life work, in the hands of God.

[PazPinhasRahamim]

Concised and accurate 👏🏼 well done. Hebrew is my mother's tongue and you have nailed it 👍🏼

[loriallan]

Yep, just looked up the NRSVUE! Thanks Dan for sharing that translated version!

[EricMalloyphotography]

I don’t understand why christians need to hold on to these things in order to have their faith. It seems that their faith is weak if they have to reconcile these things or it all falls apart. If anything the things I’ve learned from Dan have made my faith stronger because I don’t have to rely on these teachings as “gospel”.

[maskedsaiyan]

I wonder how many mistranslations have influenced Christian theology.

[yosefavraham]

Love this. I'm a Hebrew speaking Jew and you sir, are totally correct.

[douglasphillips]

In this context it sounds like they're using the time it takes a boy to grow up as a timeframe for the events. It's not about the boy himself. As an American, I appreciate the use of random things as measuring devices

[Wkumar]

I wonder how many would remain as evangelical conservative Christians if the history of the Hebrew and Greek languages was more common than it is today. When I first learned about this mistranslation I was surprised and it took me awhile to grasp the implications for belief and religious doctrine.

[MultiThrashed]

Isaiah 7.14 foretells events in Isaiah 8. It's a very mundane part of the bible when translated correctly.

[Dizzinator]

The other part is they try to argue about Almah, betulah, and Parthenos and I always have said the issue is you’re taking a prophecy that the book it was written in out of its context to force double prophecy.

Meaning if you read 7:3-9 you will get what’s going on, and in verse 10-13 it says this ”Then the Lord spoke again to Ahaz, saying, “Ask a sign for yourself from the Lord your God; make it deep as Sheol or high as heaven.” But Ahaz said, “I will not ask, nor will I test the Lord!” Then he said, “Listen now, O house of David! Is it too slight a thing for you to try the patience of men, that you will try the patience of my God as well?“
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So before we touch vs 14 you can see that the Bible is saying god through Isaiah is saying I want to show you King ahaz a sign…. But he refuses so God tells him what he will do.

So this prophecy has a time limit for it to be fulfilled. It is not a prophecy for 400 years later. Otherwise it would have been a failed prophecy.

[Ayeohx]

This is what church should have been like.

[danielgibson]

My interest in this passage is purely chronological. It establishes that:

•hezekiah was born in 740 BCE.

• azariah died in 740 BCE.

• ahaz was coregent in 740 BCE (742-731 uncounted, 731-715 counted). A similar chronological counting occurs with hezekiah (728-715 uncounted, 715-697/96 solo, 697/96-687/86 over manasseh).

•pekah captured samaria and made war on judah in 740 BCE.

•menahem died in 742 BCE, making his tribute paid to tiglath-pileser lll an event early in tiglath pileser lll’s reign rather than later.