Sam Seder's Open Challenge To Steven Crowder

It looks like Steven Crowder is getting cold feet in debating Sam Seder. Sam and the Majority Report crew discuss this.

[fookustudios]

Crowder never changes his mind about anything.
Change my mind.

[MongoMike]

Steven Crowder is scared....change my mind.

[ThatFalloutGod]

So lemme see if I got this straight:

>In the beginning you (essentially) said, "I don't like politics being made into entertainment, but I felt it necessary for me to go to Politicon to state my opinions, because 'so much of YouTube is held by Conservatives.' " Which doesn't even make any sense, because people on the Left have a lot of influence on YouTube and even the people you're trying to go against are friends with people who're more to the Left and are constantly on their shows. So the idea of there being some echo-chamber on YouTube for people on the Right is a real stretch.
>You then said that you're only debating people that're "relevant" and have a big following, which literally means that you want attention.
>You deny the chance to debate Milo, solely because you wouldn't get the amount of attention you want.
>You then say that the Politicon people said you can debate Crowder and you accepted it (which I can only assume, per your own words, is because he's one of the biggest Conservative channels on YouTube, and you really want that attention).
>Then, conveniently, they stop emailing you about this "because they don't want emails to be leaked, " and give you a phone call, saying that Crowder's team stopped responding to Politicon entirely and the person on the phone said that "they got cold feet."
>You then start assuming things like his dad is his manager (which I'm almost positive that he isn't, but either way it's irrelevant), and "calling him out" for not going to Politicon, even though you never had direct contact with him.
>You then pompously contradict yourself by saying that "there's no way Crowder won't see this and be able to run away from my challenge to debate him, " even though this video only has 34, 000 views right now. So either you have little influence on YouTube and you're small, or you have a good amount of influence and you're big, which one is it?

This has to be one of the most laughable stretches I've ever seen someone attempt, because you completely skipped over the possibility of Politicon miscommunicating with you, Crowder's team, or even both; and go straight for, "Oh, he must be an absolute coward that doesn't have the balls to debate anyone who disagrees with him, " which doesn't even make sense because you can easily go to his channel and see a litany of debates and discussions he's had with people he disagrees with. Plus, on-top of all of this, he was going to the University of Michigan days after Politicon was going on, which obviously takes prep-time to make it happen. So this assumption that he was avoiding you out of "fear" is asinine at best, because you have to do a lot of mental-gymnastics to automatically come to that conclusion without question. But hey, at least I got a good laugh from the video and comments that're literally just an echo-chamber of blatant lies.

[adamsheridan]

Sam Seder wants to debate someone with a YouTube platform and a lot of followers. He only has 403K subs while Crowder has 2.9M (at least 7 times the amount of subscribers). Why would anyone with a platform want to debate someone who nobody knows. Milo Yiannopoulos (He has more than twice as many subs) is more well known than Sam Seder, but Sam says that no one knows him. Laughable. Sam even said that Crowder was looking for someone to debate, but he never said that Crowder accepted the invitation. He probably wrote off Sam like Sam did Milo. The only difference is that MILO IS MORE WELL KNOWN THAN HIM. If Sam wants to debate someone he should find someone that is on his level. Steven shouldn't waste his time. Calling him "scared", "a chicken", or "a fraud" isn't going to make him debate Sam Seder. How's that for changing your mind.

[Mrwhale]

Crowder backed out of the Potholer debate, he will never agree to this.

[AvantTom]

Crowder will most likely ignore this completely because he is afraid to debate anyone who knows what they are talking about.

[stylesy]

This comment section illustrates the brains of ben shapiro and crowder fans. YIKES.

[ColinDart]

Why would Crowder debate Sam? He has nothing to gain from this, so it's never going to happen imo... Also does Sam not see the irony when he calls Milo irrelevant...

[andydoufreisn]

Sam...you are under the false impression that you have an argument here. Your views are outdated and no one is into this big government and more welfare approach anymore.

[DjDreamcastle]

I think Destiny proved why you don't deserve to talk to crowder. Someone who has done this for fat less time has done far better.

[Peopleofthesun]

A college guy almost made Crowder cry on his own show, there is no way he is accepting this.

[LennyBruiser]

Your 400, 000 subscribers compared to Crowder’s 2.9 million says it all.... he’s simply better received and far more relevant.

[Swinker]

2.9 million subs to 403k subs?

Why would he debate you? So you can get views? Lol

[mikecantreed]

Sam I was really impressed with your prep for that Charlie Kirk debate. 0% chance he accepts this after that video was uploaded.

[spencersmith]

He literally debates doctors and all these experts on whatever topic all the time. He does a whole lot more than change my mind

[pleaseclap]

"The left doesn't want to have discussions" lol okay. First it was cowardly Coulter with Kyle... and now Steven Crowder.
I'm absolutely SHOCKED /s

[ASalv]

If he goes in to a structured debate with a moderator and against someone who is properly prepared, let alone more intelligent, Crowder can't impose his bullying and grandstanding tactics that he usually applies to casual people who aren't used to public speaking or debate.

He physically intimidates, lies, grandstands, argues over semantics (calling Nazis 'socialists' because it is in the name etc) and asks unanswerable questions like specific obscure policy to make his opponents seem uninformed, all which would not work at ALL against someone like Sam... Which is why, he'd NEVER dare to debate because he's dumb fans vicariously live through his perceived intellectual superiority but once that credibility is shattered, it would literally ruin his career. He wouldn't dare RISK IT ALL...

[joey]

Can't believe Sam is 51 years old. Still looks young and sharp as a whistle.

[WantSomeSlaw]

Wait, y'all realize that there was a title to the original Change My Mind photo they showed, right? It was just edited out later on as a meme template. I believe the original header was "Male Privilege is a Myth: Change My Mind" or something along those lines. He wasn't just sitting there asking random people to change his mind without telling them beforehand what they're supposed to change his mind about lol

[davidowens]

Sam would destroy Crowder worse than he did Kirk. I don't think Crowder has the balls to do it.