Tonex FIRMWARE UPDATE: What About Midi?? What Can It Do?

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By far the biggest question I get about the upcoming Tonex update, is what midi is going to allow us to do. In this video I dive deep into what you will be able to control once the new software/firmware is released tomorrow. I hope you find this video helpful, and I hope you enjoy the tone models.

As always, thanks so much for watching...

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0:00 - Intro
0:50 - Video Setup
1:11 - What Can Midi Control In The New Firmware
2:27 - Tone Model Used For Video Demo
3:10 - Turning FX On/Off
4:38 - What About Midi Clock?
6:35 - Choosing Modulation Algorithm Via Midi
9:23 - Program Change To Change Presets
10:22 - Other Settings
12:54 - Summary
13:59 - Phil-Mo' 25 Ultimate Tone Models In The Mix

[JohnnyMatthewsMusic]

I'm ready as soon as I get the new software to update my Tonex MIDI Compendium doc for everyone.

[Liam_Doherty_Country-Rock]

Season’s greetings from the UK.

Talk about coincidence, I’ve just taken delivery of a white TONEX, and was contemplating getting my Morningstar midi controller out and programming some changes with the effects in TONEX. I turned on YouTube and your video came up. Amazing, just the help & inspiration I was looking for!

Thanks, and your captures on the unit are excellent. 😎🎸👍

[rodolfoluppi]

Thanks Jason, your work brings a lot of value to this community! Great news.
Is there any chance that you can share this PDF with the updated MIDI Assignments? I would like to program my controller in preparation for the update.
Thanks!

[swordio]

Another great video, Jason. Delighted to hear IK are making so much controllable over midi. Now Tonex + a midi controller really can compete with some of the competition's flagship units but at half the price. Or if you need even more effects, you could add something like an HX One into the mix and I really can't see how you'd need anything else.

[cliffsewell]

Cheers Jason looking forward to the update and definitely getting a midi controller 👍

[Xaler]

The MC6 Pro is awesome. I use it to midi control the Tonex, and 4 x Strymon pedals plus Morning Glory drive Red switch. Also use it with the Hotone pedal's expression function to control the FX listed above. Really great for live playing.

[srwaite]

Hey Jason! This is very helpful! I just got set up today with the new TX software. I would some more vids going through more MIDI setups with the Morningstar when you have the time. Thanks for all you do!

[jackprice]

There are a couple of the new effects I've heard on the video demos that are pretty impressive. The chorus and delays actually sound pretty good.

[ncyancy]

Thanks Jason. Can I use an external foot pedal like a switch 3 foot switch in the tonex pedal external control and use that to turn on and off the new fx like reverb and delay, in stand alone mode(without being hooked up to a computer?). Appreciate all your knowledge that you share.

[melfreegard]

Thanks for the video, Jason. I have a question. Say you have a 10-button midi controller, and you wanted to set buttons to turn on/off effects (e.g. button 1 chorus on/off, button 2 tremolo on/off, 3 phaser on/off, 4 flanger on/off, 5 rotary on/off, 6 delay on/off, 7 compressor on/off, 8 tap tempo, etc). Now, obviously, selecting one modulation after another will switch one off and the next on (i.e. selecting 3 after 1 will turn phaser on and chorus off). And you said that the Tonex software recalls each previous modulation settings if you change the modulation type. The question is, are each of those modulation settings stored in the saved profile, or do you have to include the desired settings in the midi commands for each button? For example, button 1 select chorus as the modulation type, toggle it on/off, rate 30%, depth 50%, level 50%, button 2 select tremolo as the modulation type, rate 10%, depth 60%, level 70%, button 3 select phaser, rate 20%, etc, etc. Hope that makes sense.

[Bhallmed]

Took me seconds to program the “chorus” as an on/off switch on my Gigrig G3. This is nice

[StormJH]

Thanks to Jason for the informative video, and this is certainly good news that you can toggle effects on/off and even change parameters with MIDI CC.

However, I still question just how useful this is as a pedalboard solution. With the new update, Tonex will have a very limited selection of delays and modulations to go with an expanded reverb lineup. However to both trigger and EDIT those effects in meaningful fashion, you would have to add hardware to your board. You're looking at something probably like the Morningstar MC3 or MC6, for probably another $200 and more real estate off your board roughly the size of Tonex Pedal itself. And you'd still be very limited to controlling maybe a few on/off switches with no knobs to change parameters unless you menu-dive on the Tonex.

But if you really want delay on your pedalboard, wouldn't you better off applying that $200 towards a Boss DD-200, or something even smaller like an EHX Canyon? That would give more (and better) types of that effect, and dedicated knobs for the types of parameters relevant to a delay pedal. I think it's great that we get the effects within Tonex - it costs us nothing, and they sound good to my ears. But I just caution against people going down an expensive rabbit hole to make this amp capture device work like a "multi-FX" by throwing more gear at the problem.

[douglassmith]

Nice mix. Not over the top. Pleasant to my 54 year old ears

[filipebotocorreia]

Great content, Jason; we can only thank you for the excellent work. I have a question that maybe you could clarify for me.

If I save all my presets with the parameters set (but turned off at the time of saving), will the MIDI control work across all presets, right?

Thank you!

[pixelninja]

thanks for another great video Jason. I have a GX 100 and would like to control the Tonex patches via the Bank Up/Down on it. I want the GX to be basically a stomp box of effects on a single patch, and be able to shift through the tonex for different amp settings using the GX. Any help would be greatly appreciated.

[collinsstudios]

I feel like tonex + hx stomp XL is going to be so powerful.

You can offload some HX stomp blocks to the tonex (modulation, delay, compression etc) and still control them using command center on the HX stomp.

[joachimbecker]

Hi Jason, very nice your videos and helpfull with great content. I´ve a question: I miss any Midi Function into the ToneX Software stand alone application. Do you know if IK Multimedia will add this functionality to the software? I would like use my Line 6 FBV 3 so that I can manage delay, chorus etc. Many thanks

[robles]

Really nice videos on the ToneX.

I'm experiencing an unusual noise issue with my ToneX and Jet Unity6 controller setup. I'm hoping someone else has encountered this and might have a solution. I have a Kemper and this issue experienced with the ToneX is not present.

Setup
- Jet Unity6 controller on my pedalboard
- Unity6 Exp 1 to control DLY MIX on ToneX = Msg #1 > CC > Number: 8 > Min %: 30 > Max %: 60
- ToneX > GLOBAL MIDI CLK set to SLAVE MIDI

The Issue (which I also heard in this video at 5:54)
When the ToneX MIDI CLK mode is set to SLAVE MIDI (receiving clock):

- I can turn effects on/off without any problems
- However, when I use the expression pedal connected to the Unity6 to adjust parameters (like delay mix on the ToneX) while playing, a strange noise is introduced throughout the entire travel of the pedal
- The same noise appears when I tap tempo from the Unity6 while playing

What Works
When I set the ToneX MIDI CLK mode to OFF or MASTER:

- The expression pedal controls delay mix cleanly with no noise
- BUT I lose the ability to control tempo externally from the Unity6

Troubleshooting So Far
I've confirmed this is specifically related to the MIDI clock mode being in SLAVE MIDI position. The noise only appears when:

1. MIDI Clock is set to SLAVE MIDI
2. I'm either moving the expression pedal or using tap tempo

Has anyone else experienced this issue with the ToneX and a MIDI controller? Any suggestions for maintaining external tempo control without introducing this noise?

[paolino]

Great video!! Always wondered why the software/pligin doesn't manage any MIDI

[redkurn]

cool, hopefully the fbv3 works well with these new options. finally bought a usb midi host for it. line 6 seems to not want to give it an update to unlock it's features. "we need to focus on newer hardware" um... helix is a year older. 🤷‍♂😂 maybe dude will listen and push it up the chain and maybe it will get unlocked finally. else i'll have to sell it and get a morningstar mc8 that i've been wanting... shouldn't have gotten the blackstar live logic and just waited i suppose.