AMD Zen 5: Utter Domination

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Corrections:
1) Our Geekbench graphs reflect the performance of the MacBook Pro 14 with M3 Max instead of the M3 Pro. The corrected Geekbench score for CPU should be listed as 3,083 for single core, 15,345 for multi-core, and 78,380 for GPU Compute (Metal). These are still better than the Zen 5 chips but by a much smaller margin for Multi-core CPU.
2) The "c" cores are also on 4nm. 3nm is only used on EPYC servers.

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00:00 Our Findings
00:32 AMD Zen 5 vs Qualcomm Snapdragon X
01:04 AMD Zen 5 vs Intel Core Ultra
01:09 AMD Zen 5 vs Apple M3
02:06 AMD Zen 5 Specifications
03:23 AMD Zen 5 Performance
04:49 AMD Zen 5 Power Draw
07:27 Heat & Fan Noise
08:49 Battery Life
10:25 Graphics Performance
11:48 AI NPU Performance
12:08 Conclusion

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Corrections:
1) Our Geekbench graphs reflect the performance of the MacBook Pro 14 with M3 Max instead of the M3 Pro. The corrected Geekbench score for CPU should be listed as 3, 083 for single core, 15, 345 for multi-core, and 78, 380 for GPU Compute (Metal). These are still better than the Zen 5 chips but by a much smaller margin for Multi-core CPU.
2) The "c" cores are also on 4nm. 3nm is only used on EPYC servers.

[princebanini]

For some weird reason, being upfront about your findings makes me want to watch till the end to enjoy the entire process of arriving at your conclusions.

This channel is literally my go to for all things laptop. Big ups Josh and team❤❤

[EmilPettersson]

Great video, it's nice to see that efficiency is becoming more and more important. One thing though; I think that the graph at 9:44 is a bit misleading, running Cinebench for 30 minutes doesn't say how much progress the laptops had on the "task" - The M3 Macbook might have had 89% battery left after 30 minutes but we don't know how much of the job was finished in those 30 minutes.

So the graph won't tell us if the battery will last to finish the task. Maybe the Macbook air dies before the job is finished, whereas the px13 finishes on one charge. We'd need a standardised task that could run for 30 minutes, and if the task finishes before 30 minutes the time it took and how much charge was left could be noted down.

I do like that you are upfront with the conclusion in the beginning of the video!

[mvz]

Speaking of power efficiency, your data output per staff member is bonkers. Thank you so much for all the valuable work you do!

[djayjp]

I'm sorry, Josh, but I truly can't handle these rapid fire charts. I'm even really struggling to pause the video....

[world]

Important correction: Zen5c is *not* build on 3nm as claimed at 2:32 Zen 5 mobile is 100% 4 nm. Only the server Zen5c will be built on 3-nm and maybe future Mobile parts, but not strix point.

Another thing, I do not know for sure but appears to be the case is, that the GB6 multicore results of the MBP are actually with an M3 Max and not from an 12C M3 pro

[fmulleady]

What a great video structure, including a generous up-front summary. No tosh from Josh! 🤣

[PsychonautTV]

I've been watching laptop youtubers for years and it seemed like you came out of nowhere but it feels like you're the only one who truly understands laptops as devices, the marketing behind them, and how to actually test and review results!!

you and your team are doing great work. thanks for being objective!

[bryans]

Thanks for the comparisons, I don't think anybody does a more thorough job. We have several ASUS products in our house (laptop, desktop, even ProArt monitors) so I can't say I'm surprised by your pick.

[elderman]

The Asus ProArt Px13 is such a beast, if only it wasn't 60hz

[woyttas]

For some reason your channel flew under my radar.
I was not expecting someone bringing in a fresh take on tech at this point.
A joy to watch!

[rramnel]

Thanks for the comprehensive analysis in your video. Still not convinced that the Zen 5 chips are more efficient than ARM. I have looked at many other reviews and none seem to say that the Zen 5 chip is as power efficient as the Snapdragon chip.

[rowandierich]

I appreciate your work in putting together detailed efficiency graphs and really explaining how the new tech compares to other offerings.

[hosseintajik]

Very comprehensive and thorough review! Thanks!

[drmohammedalmasri]

Because I got the most important info on the beginning of the video, I'm definitely watching the whole video, since I feel my time appreciated. Thanks for the amazing work as always!

[alexs.]

Can you conduct comprehensive and serious battery tests, rather than the incomplete ones you ve always shown? Marc Andrews' tests of the S16's battery show improvement, but it still falls significantly short compared to Qualcomm Snapdragon (Surface laptops etc). The Samsung snapdragon laptop with the X84 beats the S16 with its Zen 5 in performance.

[deneguil-]

something important i've noted on the NPU chart: the M4's 38 TOPS was calculated at INT4 precision while all the others use INT8, at INT8 the M4 falls down to 19 TOPS

[jorge]

But why test battery life on the highest performance mode? That's not how people use their laptops.

[Dee-Ell]

The amount of work team Just Josh puts in for these evaluations is insane. Thank you so much. This channel is my reference for computer reviews. Once you discover this channel, the majority of those other highly popular "reviews" channels are like infomercials*.

(* Incidentally: "A Pixel 9 review agreement required influencers to showcase the Pixel over competitors or have their relationship terminated." --The Verge)

[PohnnyRico]

px13 looks so good, compact with enough power even for good gaming