STOP Playing Clove as SMOKES

Clove is an Agent made for dominating ranked and could even completely take over the pro meta.

#valorant

[marcosramirez]

I feel like the concept of abilities of use after death was played around on Astra for a bit but due to Astras utility being super oppressive, it was scrapped and letter picked up by Clove

[KNJl]

i am a duelist player and i always push out, when the other duelist doesnt. i love this new agent

[kmr_tl]

2:08 Meddle is (basically) a CSGO frag grenade. Riot added pretty much all util from CS except the frag for a good reason: it's really strong and there's not much you can do when you see it coming.
Sova's shock darts are basically two nades but it's locked behind his clunky animation and it's loud as hell. It's not as snappy as Meddle or CS frags.

[abrawolf]

Cloves been a lot of fun to play, but i dont really see them as oppresive yet. Like, i feel oppressed when an enemy reyna is dominating the lobby but i dont feel the same when its a clove, and the true value of a clove comes from frags and smart deaths so its very easy to just, not feel the impact of the agent from the enemy team if the clove isnt doing well. That said, i can see the smoke regen getting nerfed tp 35 or 40, they almost have omens smoke up time on a singular choke point and thats more annoying to face than anything else

[natluskarlsefni]

tbh playing clove only made me realize how good the other "Dome smokes" Controller agents actually are.
The only thing Clove has going for her is the ability to smoke while dead, it enables SO MANY OPTIONS that other Controller agents can only dream of having (e.g. hard anchoring, risky smokes off angles, etc...)

[skyfeelan]

wait, did you just revert your name back to Val Ascended? I was sure you changed it to Elevated (or is it just mandela effect?)

[elfyar]

idk she feels like a balanced agent. her decay has to be line of sight and doesnt go through walls the smokes though being able to be placed while dead last the shortest out of the dome smoke controlers and personaly i feel like alot of people just dont know what she does (forgetting she can revive forgetting she has to get a kill/assist to stay alive) and let's not forget at the end of the day the most important thing is your aim and not your agent

[fedor]

Barely playable for me(Immo 3). Conceptually Clove's util is the same as some other stuff in the game but significantly lacking compared to analogs:
1.Pick me up - 10s duration against Reyna's 30s. Also, every heal in the game stays permanently up to 100 HP, but not this one. Speed boost is the same as Brim's stim but compared to Brim's it requires a kill and it's not team-wide(you can even stim the skye dog with Brim)
2. Meddle - combo util, the same type as Fade's seize, Deadlock's gravnet, Astra's suck. Limited range, short duration compared to anything.
3. Self-res. Kill timer is too short, forces you into bad for you fights. The concept of dying by using your ult is dumb, no way the most expensive ability of any agent's kit should have that drawback(same as Iso)

You can argue that util is situational and in scenarios like spike down on low time it's impossible to wait out, but if you think about it, there is no situations where you would want specifically clove's ability.

So basically yeah, they didn't lie when Clove was advertised as smoke agent for filling. If you're used to playing something aggressive and you're facing 4 instalocks in the lobby you can still have both smokes and familiar util, just watered down but conceptually the same. And you won't be forced into learning specifics of different role, like not dying in first 10 seconds. But if we just compare abilities without "forced to fill" situtation everyting is just worse than any other controller.

[Micalex]

I've played clove on all my Viper maps, and it honestly feels more flexible to play clove. Not being able to pick up Vipers Cloud was basically what killed her.

[vizdrom]

They say "Pew Pew" after getting a kill. Best Agent ever.

[rylandercoleman]

Meddle works incredibly well when comboing with a raze nade too

[ItzMehScorpio]

I feel like this agent was built for ppl like tenz who have to fill smokes for the team but also want to play aggressive

[MuskMonkey]

Clove is hella fun. The decay with a smoke is nasty

[StriaghtRight]

Them making the heal temporary and not making the nade last longer like a kayo molly really killed her but she’s fun in ranked

[gloryadigun]

all i'll say is that Clove's util (specifically meddle) is not supposed to be used for lineups, riot made this clear. The meddle ability is more of an aggressive util to help get frags, due to it's short time-span it's more likely to be paired with something like the Raze 'nade. Remember that Clove is STILL a controller, just more aggressive.

[sparkachu]

As a controller main. I normally leave clove for my team mate to play as I am a more traditional controller main. (viper line ups, lurks, dening space, all that) So haveing a colve on my team is amazing as finally I can play double smokes and contantly have value. However I am scared that every vct team (apart from prx because they are prx) will begin to run viper and clove and have it become stale and hated.

[diamondguy-xslg]

I just hope that clove doesn't get tons of nerfs if she's too powerful like what riot did to chamber when he was first released

[lugawplain]

now we need a duelist that get punished for flanking every round

[ryebread]

clove is so fun to play I've been locking her in comp and have a 70% winrate over 20 matches played

[Girvo]

After 20 games on them in Diamond lobbies… I have an 70% win rate on them, and am back to ascendant lmao. I’m averaging nearly 300ACS… I’m telling you she’s broken lol