On Gospel Authorship

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I'm so grateful for scholars like you, who can communicate these verifiable facts in such a clear and open manner. Please do not stop.

teilhardmcgee
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More more discussion, I'd highly recommend Bart Ehrman's book, Jesus Before the Gospels. (This is where the theory of a single Gospel manuscript with authorship added in Rome comes from.)

maklelan
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Papias' account of Judas' death sounds like something my 9 year old would have come up with. 😆

MsFitz
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Papyius would've loved playing Mortal Kombat. His account of Judas' death reads like a fatality!

utubepunk
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Funny enough I'm actually listening to Dr Ehrman's book Jesus Before The Gospels and I just got through his explanation of exactly this :D

TheAntiburglar
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The gospels became more and more supernatural and Jesus becomes more and more superheroic as the newer gospels were written, indicating that the authors amplified more and more the elements of the stories that created more converts to the cause. It makes one wonder to what degree the same happened to the oral traditions before the first gospel was ever written. The original oral traditions may well have been quite a bit more boring.

kevindavis
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Imagine writing an anonymous text that influences the entire trajectory of the world for the next couple thousand years

thescoobymike
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I like that you can see echoes of the intragroup politics going on in something as seemingly mundane as who to attribute these books to.

rainbowkrampus
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Dan, it's hard to test the veracity of the claims in the Gospels when even their authorship is in question. Hearsay, at best, which in a court of law doesn't pass the 'reasonable doubt' criteria. Plus, the fact that Matthew and Luke copied much of Mark adds another degree of separation in the idea of 'hearsay'. Now, instead of getting their info third hand, for example, it's fourth hand information. I liken the gospel stories to someone witnessing the O.J. Simpson trial, then 10 years later tells someone else about it, who then tells someone else about it 10 years later, who then tells someone 20 years later about it who finally writes it down.

waderogers
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That was great Dan. You may find this book called New Testament Origins by George M Lamsa of interest. It gives some unique perspectives on the history of the New Testament from the Near East.

Roy-sejv
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I came across your channel a few days ago and i am really impressed. Please more videos. ❤

germanboy
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Not by the hacker group *Anonymous* . Written anonymously*

utubepunk
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That was refreshing Dan. Thanks for leaving politics out for this one.

ithinkipoopt
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What are your thoughts on Q as being the basis for some (or none) of the Gospels? If an early version of Matthew was a sayings Gospel, could that have misidentified as Q?

dougmorrow
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This actually makes it sound likenthe traditional attributions are correct.

js
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Lyons is pronounced more like "Lee-on", with the n barely sounded. Given how many languages you can read, understand and speak, I don't expect you to know French as well. 😄

archivist
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I’m currently reading through The Case For Jesus by Brant Pitre where he argues against the anonymous gospels theory in the first few chapters. I’m new to the concept of textual criticism, do you have counters to his points?

JasonBryner
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It is common for a book in the bible to be written by one person and then added to later. This can be seen in Genesis 14:14 KJV where an area in the promised land is referred to by referencing the tribe of Dan but Moses died before the land was divided between the tribes so someone else had to have added that later. There is also the account of Joshua's own death in the book he wrote which he obviously did not do himself.

WellFedSheep
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Could Papias be referring to the Gospel of Thomas??

scottkunghadrengsen
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Do you think you could put the sources you are drawing from in your descriptions? Id like to learn more about the topics you talk about

cameronmathews