SDG #216 JBC DDE-2C Modular 2 Tools Soldering Station for T245, T210 and other handpieces

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0:00​ Introduction
0:35 New JLCPCB PCBs 4 layer from $5!
1:31 About the JBC Modular Line Systems
4:49 Detailed Overview - Handpiece
5:49 Detailed Overview - Stand
7:31 Detailed Overview - Control Unit
9:10 Control Unit Teardown
14:04 The Graphical User Interface + General Use
19:32 Tip Calibration
21:12 Some soldering, including JLCPCB UniSolder PCB
21:58 2p Coin Test against Metcal MX5200, Best BST-933 and PACE ADS200
23:40 An even bigger soldering tip
24:42 Thoughts and conclusions
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[sdgelectronics]

Update: The maximum output power is derived from a database in the unit, which is why we only see a maximum of around 90W on the 5mm tip. Small tips are limited to significantly less power by the station.

[sdgelectronics]

Apologies for the re-upload, hopefully it didn't mess up any notifications

[Nessaritius]

Seeing how Metcal MX-5200 is behaving on one of your videos, I got one myself (used and slightly beated) and have to say, best 500$ ever spent on soldering equipment. Thanks SDG!

[jeffrey]

For those who use this video as a review to see if you actually want to buy this station, and you're missing the temperature preset buttons, there actually is a way to use 3 preset temperatures. You just have to enable and set it in the menu (menu -> tools -> temp level set -> temp levels). After that you can just use the up and down buttons while the handle is out of the stand to change the temperatures to the preset values.

Besides this station with the T210 handle and PA120 tweezers, I use a CLMU-A automatic tip cleaner. The automatic tip cleaner is one of those things you didn't know you needed in life untill you used it.

[FrankenProjects]

At work we only use JBC-stations. So the next step was to get one myself. A Co-worker alerted me that someone sold his older Compact model online (no fancy display, just a dial) for only 70 bucks. It had a broken connector and was in good condition, only 15 minutes of repair and it works like a charm! Next step is to get more tips :P

[tanishqbhaiji]

You just have to love the look of the JBC strain-relief.

[MC]

Great reviews, clear voice, perfect microphone audio, great video quality, awesome lights, beautiful color balance: can't ask for more.

[thomasw]

Now you start collecting soldering stations ? Hehehe.

[windward]

For PACE the cartridge approach had specific design goals as compared to a non-cartridge sleeve and tip approach like their PS-90. In my opinion the ADS200 handpiece is an evolution of the TD-100 IntelliHeat cartridge handpiece. One goal in this evoution I think was to reduce the handpiece self heating with extended operator use. If you look at the PS-90 design as an evolution the heater is a socketed device beyond the end of the handpiece with materials use to minimize heat transfer into the grip, and it works really well. I think the basic promise of a cartridge approach would be to keep heat out of the handpiece by putting the heater out further towards the tip, which would allow a shorter grip to tip distance while still having a cool handpiece.

I think the TD-100 runs much hotter than the ADS200 handpiece, although in this evolution there was the move to lead-free soldering requirements with its associated higher temperatures. To me I think a cartridge handpiece basic design advantage is in cooler handpiece extended operation. So it is interesting that JBC would add a foam sleeve. PACE has experience with removable foam type sleeves like on the PS-90 and I think found them lacking with rugged use, like in a electronic production setting. I believe this is why you don't have the foam sleeve on the ADS200 or the TD-100 handpiece. Possibly another reason for the foam sleeve is to address hand fatigue ergonomics. I think foam sleeves just wear out too fast for production work. I actually like a solid handpiece without any foam and if possible a minimul rubber grip much like the older Metcal handpiece, and this approach is used with the ADS200 handpiece in shape and design intent.

[kikihobbyrepair]

Thank you for the review. I do not know what to tell. For sure its performance is pretty convincing though it looks like the clone versions can do the same (for the fraction of the price) because the magic is in the tip and it is overshooting. There is no per tip calibration which could be a simple 3 points calibration per tip name in the FW. This feature even a KSGER has for 40€... I have just built a station based on the Ksger hardware which is slightly modified to be able to use a JBC handle and tips and I use a CFW for it. Maybe this is the good setup... This way I have the advantage of the JBC cartridges with the calibration process of the Ksger station.

[jaro]

Great video. You can see from JBCs own graph that even with a huge tip, only hits about 40% power average (60W) as you said limited by the cartridge. Metcal should be a bit less limited by a smaller tip size IMO.

[alexstone]

7:00 It's probably large to fit other tools like the gun

[iwaterwizard]

JBC makes great soldering stations for sure.

[igorabcde]

Hello! It's very interesting. I can't understand. I see on power module 2 additional similar current shunt with amplifier and I can't understand how it work(. Can you analyze where are they connected?

[dreamcat]

hey there, was just wondering if you had tried that largest 7mm tip on the best clone station too. Perhaps you already did! Then maybe i missed that little bit. It would be interesting to see how much different the increase in performance was being due to lifting a ceiling imposed by the previous smaller 5mm tip. Vs other independent ceiling imposed by the base unit

[boweneveritt]

You must have a ton of high end soldering equipment!

[ploegmma]

As always very good. Nice review, much appriciated, thnx

[tinygriffy]

Incredible how elaborated these Devices are these days .. I imagine grandpa with a piece of copper in a pair of grip pliers and a blowtorch to heat it, dipping it in a block of rosin he probably harvested himself ... soldering on old tube contraptions... how long before we have IR laser soldering or the 3d printer that even prints components on glass or ceramic :D
Thanks Steve, very interesting !

[kipsus]

Yes I have built a JBC clone station from scratch (documented on eevblogs) and can confirm that the peak power over 100w is only useful for rapid reaching of the set temperature. My controller is capable of putting out about 200w but I intentionally limited it to 150w to reduce tip stress, heating barely slowed down anyway. Power rarely goes above 50w when actually soldering...

[acoustic]

Good comparisons! The Metcal always seems to win the coin test while Pace seems to lag. Metcal is very tempting. If you could only keep one station, which one would it be? Could you deal without being able to adjust the temperature of the Metcal?