Wednesday's Therapist - Wednesday Gets Therapized

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Wednesday's Therapist - Wednesday Gets Therapized //

If you love the TV show Wednesday like we do you will love this video. What does the therapist do well, and what went really, really wrong with the therapist on the TV show Wednesday? Watch as a therapist reacts to the therapist on Wednesday.

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00:00 Wednesday's Therapist
01:15 Wednesday Clip
03:35 What is the role of a good therapist
05:19 Mended Light
10:50 Meet them where they are at
14:46 Therapists need grit
17:37 The purpose of therapy

#therapized #wednsday #adamsfamily #mendedlight #jonathandecker

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I feel like Kimbot could have connected with Wednesday in a lot of ways. If she asked about hobbies and found a way to mention her roadkill collection I feel like Wednesday would have clicked with her a LOT more

tropical_
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When I saw a child therapist, I was quiet and thought I wasn't going to change. Then, he wanted to play board games. I fell for it. I played so many board games. Without realizing I was getting therapized

Surfer
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I think the biggest problem is that Kinbott, since this is a first session brought up the mystery novels without asking Wednesday first. This is a first session. She invaded Wednesday's privacy. That shows lack of boundaries. And if she's trying to say what Wednesday is doing wrong, because it breaks boundaries, etc. Isn't she modeling bad behavior? If she wants trust, then she should have asked about hobbies, etc and let Wednesday bring up her novels herself rather than forcing them on her.

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Part of the issue was that Wednesday didnt give permission for her manuscripts to be sent to Dr Kinbott, she was also feeling the betrayal there as well. And the relationship is set up as adversarial from the start, which isnt going to work.

CarolynsArtAdventures
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“I don’t travel well” is one of my favorite clap back lines of the show. It was such a quick comeback that I found funny. Jenna absolutely killed this role

chandleraskew
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I totally agree with the approach of asking why they do not want to be there. My first session I spent the whole 45 minutes giving all the reasons why I should not need therapy. Why I should be able to deal with my stuff alone. My therapist let me go on about it until in the end she told me. You know in the last 40 minutes you have used the word “should” 75 times? Why are you so hard on yourself?”
This has changed my life.

clarapuigdetorres-solanot
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Kinbot reminds me of the first therapist I saw. I was 14 and struggling with panic attacks as well as being deeply depressed. Someone working at my school eventually called my parents and asked them to find a therapist before it was too late. The one they found made… an impression. The first few seconds of the first session went something like:

Her: I hear you’re having a bad time. I can’t imagine why a sweet little girl like you would ever feel sad
Me: I don’t like you, you feel icky.
Her: now, that’s not any way of speaking to an adult
Me: nor is babying someone a way of speaking to a teenager. Let me speak to someone who’s not creeping me out.

I ended up spending most of our sessions just glaring at a wall or a table, only to get home and break down because those sessions made everything feel darker. The next therapist I saw was also because of someone at school recommending it, but she was not as bad of a match. It went a little on and off with different therapists until I was 20. That first session was something entirely different:

Her: I could read these papers, but that seems unfair. What do you think?
Me: you can do what you want.
Her: do you want me to read them?
Me: no.
Her: okay, I’ll put them in a drawer for now. Do you want to talk about something?
Me: I don’t know. I don’t want people to hate me.
Her: is it okay if I ask why you think anyone would hate you?
Me: because I ruin everything that I touch.

Things are way better now (I’m 26 now, btw). I’m just glad that I met the last one. The first was terrible, and her tone and wording is still something I can’t stand. It tends to rub me the wrong way if someone talks in a way that reminds me of the first one. The last felt safe, and like she wanted me to have as much space as possible. I eventually wrote her a letter detailing what I wanted to say, and dropped it off at her office a few days before a session. She took it seriously and found ways of helping me through it. I’m so grateful for therapists who are able to match their clients, and not act as tone deaf as Kinbot did with Wednesday. Thank you for talking about matching a client and paying attention to their energy

Ingemaja
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If I found out a stranger read my unpublished stories and gave their opinion without warning, I’d also run because as a writer, I see the things in my stories that my characters have in common with me and it’s embarrassing and uncomfortable if someone relates those opinions or habits back to me no matter if they correctly figured out which are mine and which aren’t.

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Fun fact: potpourri used to be primarily made out of edible items that also happened to be fragrant with a long shelf life due to being dried, so I would say that considering the Adams' inclination towards archaic fashions and customs, it's not unlikely that they would have edible potpourri in their own home, thus making Pugsley's actions somewhat reasonable.

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The fact I connected with Wednesday as a child and recent realized I’m autistic, and the fact you mentioned she has symptoms - you have validated me in ways I’ve been denied my whole life (and am still being denied). It’s sickening, when you realize how few therapists even think about girls/women having ASD. I’ve got novels of stories (of my experiences) for that genre alone. It’s so painful not to be seen, especially when you’re screaming it so blatantly. Thank you.

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Dr Kinbott was set up to be the major antagonist, only to be exactly how she presented herself, caring deeply about her patients. Most notably, she points out that Wednesday isn't as cold or callous as she likes to pretend she is, making frequent visits to Eugene while he's in a coma.

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Kinbott reminds me of my first therapist a little, in the way she speaks to Wednesday.

I had a lot of anxiety due to being bullied, to the point that I would pass out all the time. When I started seeing him, he would speak to me as if I was a child or an injured puppy, even though I was 14. Eventually he managed to get me to open up by asking about my hobbies, which were reading, painting and drawing (I was painting and drawing nature scenes), and he acted really interested. But, at the end of the session, when he asked to speak to my mom privately, he told her to stop allowing me to paint, draw or read because, according to him, I was using those things to avoid growing up. My mom told me about it on the way home, but didn't stop me form doing anything, which really annoyed him. He told me that I needed to toughen up, and I would never be able to do that if I kept hiding behind my childish hobbies. After about three months he told my mom that he was going to have to stop treating me, because my mom and I were obviously unwilling to do the work.

The next therapist I saw brought coloring pencils in after I told her about my hobbies, and she allowed me to draw while we talked, which was much nicer, and made it really easy to talk to her.

nathryl
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I appreciate how quickly you recognized possible autism. Everyone's first instinct is to fix, but autism doesnt mean broken. Just different.

Its difficult, especially for myself lately. It's been getting increasingly difficult to maintain work because the schedules always change, hours changing from 8 to 10 to 12 and back, random forced overtime.. Not to mention I have ringing in my ears that wont quit and I can never have my precious silence again. I get overstimulated very easily these days. But the worst part, is that I dont have an official diagnosis because I cant afford to get one, and I cant keep a job to make the money. I already lost my car which is making everything about the situation ten times more difficult.

I'm sorry for the dump here... but i know if i had been recognized earlier and gotten support younger I'd be in a better spot. Its upsetting knowing that I'm not alone, and that it goes even further unnoticed in women

thegreatbamboozle
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I’ve always had a problem with therapy. Like, I’m pretty sure I’m autistic, but, with the five psychologists I went to, none recognised any syndromes (if not autistic then another form of neurodivergence). I went to therapy because I didn’t really get along with other kids, I have always been terrible at socialising, something I just got better at now after a year of university (a year before I couldn’t even look strangers in the eye, now it’s still uncomfortable, but I manage it). I went into therapy thinking: this isn’t going to work (spoiler, it didn’t. Haven’t been to a therapist/psychologist since… 6 years, maybe?). Like I went to individual psychologist and that did nothing, to group therapy, which I hated with my life. Also, it seems that psychologist don’t understand me, mostly because I was smart enough to know what to say so I could get out of there (I have no idea what I said to them but since I’m no longer there, I guess it worked), but also once I went to my school’s psychologist (it was obligatory, plus I got to skip class) and she told me to draw “a girl walking in the rain”. I did so, she was walking on the middle of the street, hands in her pockets because I’m not that good at drawing. Then my mom got called being like: she is super depressed basically suicidal (this part is according to my mom) because she draw a dead girl. I did not, but when my mom told me this I was like: huh, that wasn’t my intention but that is such a better story thanks (I’m a writer and a lover of creepy, dark, mysterious things). Same thing happened when we had to write a short story on sixth grade for a literature test and I was so damn tired of happy endings that I wrote about a boy who got drowned in a tsunami (my most feared natural disaster). I was not depressed, I was simply bored of stupid happy endings that had no meaning
Anyway, if you read this entire thing (wow, it’s so long), have a nice day and week and year and life lol

StellaLoreley
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I really like and appreciate my therapist. She's helped me with my PTSD so much because her personality is a match for mine and she's always willing to come down to my level to help me. You mentioned that if the patient isn't open to talking that you'd probably spend most of that session "chewing the fat" to help get them comfortable and build rapport with them and that's exactly the right call in my experience. I remember a session I had with my therapist where I was completely on edge and not coping well and just COULDN'T dig in to anything painful or even begin chipping away at my issues for that session. I just needed to unwind for a few minutes. She saw that and we spent the entire hour just talking about fanfiction and our favorite video games. Just that one low stress, no pressure session helped relieve some of the tension and helped me get through that tough week and come back the next session ready to tackle the serious stuff again.

Seeing the therapist in Wednesday come at her so aggressive and breaching her trust by immediately bringing up her novels and judging her by them made me cringe so hard. That is NOT a good therapist.

RivkahSong
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I love that they portrayed Kimbot the way they did. She was the worst kind of therapist for Wednesday (which doesn't mean she is a lousy therapist in general). Still, more often than not, people go to therapy hoping that it might help them and go out disappointed and think, "Well, therapy isn't for me, I guess, " even though they went to the best therapist in town. They believe something must be wrong with them if therapy hasn't the effect they wished for. Many people have a similar experience with their therapist like Wednesday, and can't pinpoint WHY they think it isn't working out. Dr. Kimbot isn't the stereotypical "bad therapist" we get in many movies and series, but she is the perfect example of how it shouldn't look AND feel if you go to therapy. Those scenes allow people to look at their own experiences from an outside perspective without making them uncomfortable. I will be a social worker in a few months (in Germany, so our training might be very different in other countries). We have a course that I would translate to "conversation and consultation, " primarily based on Carl R. Rogers. If I meet my professor by any chance, I would recommend this video and the scenes with Kimbot to her. It is a perfect example of how you can still mess up big times even though you technically did many things right

XxBlueEyedxX
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I've had bad experiences and good with therapy. The time my school made me see a councillor was the worst. She was uninteresting, talked mostly about the seniors that were 'practically her best friends' and let students walk into our session since she left the door open. I sat there and just stared at her until the bell rang and I could leave. I then told the teachers that if they sent me back I'd just walk out. They knew I was serious so didn't force me.

My current therapist is amazing. There was things I thought I couldn't voice, like that when I was pregnant I felt the doctors at the hospital ignored issues that nearly cost me and my baby our lives simply because I am a woman and she recognised that and voiced her own frustrations she had experienced first, assuring me I wasn't the only one who had that problem. I wish it wasn't a thing but it is nice to know it's not in my head.

oBlackSando
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Would absolutely kill to see this sort of thing on The Umbrella Academy. Literally every single character has so much going on psychologically 😳

ash.overthinking
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I had a youth group, most of whom were in the foster system. They were rolling their eyes as the useless of life. As you suggest, I matched their tone and energy and ended up with one of the best, if far from ordinary camp session.

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Instead of "matching", current counseling courses in college mention it as "meeting the client where they're at" which I find interesting to see the difference in the field as it keeps changing and growing!

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