Visualizing ICM in Poker

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Win more poker tournaments by understanding ICM on a fundamental level! This video demonstrates an intuitive method to visualize how risk premium impacts your poker strategy.

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0:00 - Introduction
4:30 - Visualizing ICM
7:30 - How payouts affect ICM
12:18 - How stacks affect ICM
18:49 - Ex. 1 - Comparing ICM to cEV
25:11 - Ex. 2 - 3max Mid Stack
30:20 - Ex. 3 - Opening 60% of your stack
36:54 - Ex 4 - Player vs player risk premium
41:02 - Ex 5. - 4max short/mid/big stack adjustments
48:00 - Ex 6. - Comparing CO opening ranges
51:29 - Main takeaways

[GTOWizard]

Did you learn something new in this video? What are your best ICM tips? Let us know down below!

[wanderleicardoso]

Excellent explanation. Best class I've ever seen about

[KimiiiRaikkonen]

Extremely well made. I have so much to learn!. Would love to see what happens postflop aswell.

I'm probably doing tons of mistakes in the mid stack portion, not knowing how icm affects me, I just play my cards. I'm very happy to have found you guys! Had Premium for 2 months, really happy with it! I recommend you guys to anyone who ask.. or don't ask for that matter.

Would also be cool to know how to punish as a big stack postflop. And some side notes on how to adjust against players who don't know they are under icm pressure. Alot of live players in my local club don't know what icm is, and is not adjusting to stack sizes. How do you play big stack against them ? both pre and post..

[mirrordistr]

Insane value thanks for putting in the work❤

[Tom_Bee_]

This channel is the best out there at the moment for learning solid strategy in my opinion. I'm seriously considering a premium subscription based on what I've seen here. Thanks for all the great work, GTOW!

[FCarraro]

the 6 bb opening spot reminds me of something Negreanu explained in a Polk podcast when he saw a player opening at the final table for 33% of their stack explaining more or less the same concepts. ;)

[qtamomusic]

Very nice video! In example 3, I think the reason 6 bb is better than shove is that you can still fold if the blinds both get it in. Otherwise it's functionally the same. And I would guess open limping would be generally better for button than minraising if it was added to the sim.

[Alexandertygreat]

Great stuff again, i believe that most mtt crushers knew this without knowing it. I made every major online final table and won a ton of online mtts and a few live playing very loose aggro, my strategy was to make my opponents have to play as many streets as possible, i would make the best decision more often then they would. When most were jamming over raises, i was making smaller 3bets and picking up a ton of dead money to be able to fade allins later.

[DHpoker]

love this content especially the free stuff for us up n comers..

[HibiscusFlowerFC]

Can you do a video on the limitations of ICM? What are the other things to consider etc.?

[jeremylarson]

i only have 1 question, where do i find these 3 or 4 player tournaments?

[undrcntrl]

with the payout 80 20 20 example it's clear that ICM model is very limited without considering any FGS

[hikikomoriechi]

In ex 3 if btn open 6bb and the other 2 shove, btn can fold a lot of hands actualy, thats way btn prefers to open 6bb instead of shoving

[AdamX]

Instead of saying "~exponential" growth you could more accurately say "superlinear" growth. The exact rate of risk premium will depend on the scenario, perhaps it's quadratic, cubic, whatever. But with ICM it's always superlinear.

[BigD]

I think the 6 is also genius because if sb shoves and bb calls then button can fold and sneak into 2nd

[OlkaAlex]

Does this "risk premium" visualization taks into account out skill edge over field ?

[qwertz]

In Example 3: I was the most curious for the case when BTN opens 6 and SB and BB both shove. You didnt really explain the advantages of opening 6 vs 10. If BTN was rewally to call of all the time there would be no advantage

[bpassion]

any advice/videos/charts for satellites? There seems to be a dearth of good modern satellite strategy these days online

[jorgenunes]

On the Example 3, After BTN Open 6BBs, If SB goes All-in, and BB goes All-in too. Do we have folds?

[徐宇坤]

Why is there no marginal diminishing effect on the graph for the winning chip corresponding to the US dollar