Ether in the Xeno Series Explained

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I always thought the Ether in Xenoblade 1 was basically magic carbon (since they said it's the basis of all life).

conorb.
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About the Alvis vs Mythra thing, I think it may be a difference in specialties. Where he was far more prediction focused than her

xaldreca
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16:30 actually at the end of Torna Mythra has a vision of xc2 events, as clear as Shulk's ones.

I believe her foresight usually is so nerfed because she isn't in her Pneuma form, where she is more connected to the zohar/conduit and so her powers become stronger.

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For the eventual protag battle, maybe the battle field can be built by the Nopon Archsage to keep things as balanced as possible.

It'd have no impact on the outcome of the battle, but you know what they say, "Nopon Archsage expecting good show, meh heh heh."

Lampent
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Spoilers for torna




I'm pretty sure the foresight rex has has more to do with zohar shenanigans than anything else, as when my thra had her vision st the end of torna she also had incomplete transformation into pneuma, which would explain why she was able to see farther into the future than normal. It would go pyra-> nothing, mythra-> limited foresight, partially transformed mythra-> greater foresight, and pneuma -> complete reality warping. Which would make sense with how each form is progressively more in tune with the zohar

longhorneagle
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16:25
Wait what about Mythras vision at the end of torna? That was a far reaching vision.

Milokender
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I'm thrilled to hear, that you started playing Xenosaga. Depending on what type of gamer you are, Xenosaga is either the best or worse part of the Xeno meta-verse.
You might guess from my avatar, that I absolutely love the franchise. Especially the first and third game. But you need to be in that mindset that watching a lot of sequences between the dungeons is fun. I personally absolutely love that. It's sometimes like watching an anime where you get to do the fighting between awesome story beats and twists. Another times the deep story serves as a great motivation for doing what you are doing in the game. It's a lot of ludo-narrative going on. There is nothing better than being rewarded with a great epic plot twist sequence after beating a strong boss at the end of a dungeon.
But I've seen a lot of these "story is gameplay's bitch" dudes who absolutely don't care for great stories in videogames at all. Those people vehemently hate games like Xenosaga. I personally think that stuff like story, characters, setting and music is even more important than gameplay.

CycloneFox
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"if shulk had visions in xenoblade 2 world they would be heavly nerfed"
Well thats exacly what happens on xb2 when Shulk gets there

a_creatorsstuff
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Thank you for explaining this. This was one of the things about the Xeno series that confused me the most.

christianharris
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I think that it's less that Pneuma or Alvis would be stronger or weaker than the other if they met in the same universe. Ie, If Pneuma was in XC1 she would receive a buff resulting in greater power than was shown in XC2, while the opposite would be true of Alvis.

However, the reason I believe that one would be stronger nor weaker than the other is because at their core their powers are fundamentally different, that is they manipulate Ether in different ways.

Alvis, or Ontos because let's be real that's probably who he is, has the inherent ability to manipulate space and time to the point where he's able to utilize a version of the second true magic. That is he was able to travel between dimensions. Yes his power was enough to create an entirely new world, but it was more that he manipulated already existing ether at the behest of his 'wielders' than actually creating stuff.

Pneuma on the other hand, has the power to "bring whatever she imagines to reality" (not sure if that's the exact tutorial quote but close enough). If we take that literally it means she has the power to warp the fabric of reality to suit her needs, by say making Rex fast enough to match Jin despite not moving at the speed of light.

I'm not sure how a fight between the two would go because while Pneuma could just imagine what she needs to defeat Alvis, he could counter by manipulating time and space to avoid or nullify her attack.

Anyway, enough of my ramblings. To whomever reads this comment all the way to the end: have a good rest of your day.

And to anyone who didn't read the entire comment; you have a good day as well.

dragonmaster
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I just realized. If Logos, Pneuma and Ontos were raised in a simulated world, would that mean that when they were awakened they were Isekaied?

Raurraurraur
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I always thought of the Ether in Xenoblade 1 as the code that made up the universe, and the Monadoes as the keys to alter it.

davidneligan
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You explained this pretty good, ib find this very informative.
Thanks for the upload

Vandita
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Love the content man :) thank you for grinding out these videos. Cant wait for the news cycle for the next game to see your options and breakdowns.

charlieduhadway
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This was something i never really questioned in either game so thanks for the explanation

thedishonorablewizardthorn
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Short version: it's like The Force, but you can channel it into different elements (not just lightning)

After video: Okay, it's just a LITTLE more complicated than that!

ninjapotatolorf
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3:30 THIS IS THE MONADOS POWER!...oh wait, wrong context

lpfan
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I will link the applicable material when I find it but I can confirm that the idea of phenomena phase-shift is canon to Xenosaga. In the first game kos-mos's most powerful weapon is explicitly referred to as a phase shift weapon

kazune
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I like to think of ether as nanomachines in the air. Think the cloud sea, but perhaps far less. When you make a request, the nanomachines make it possible.

(Edit to expand a bit more)

I also believe that blades and titans are also nanomachines. Much like Emeralds being a nanomachine colony. If I remember correctly, blades take the shape of their driver's will or something like that. It could be that the core crystals are machines that can use the nanomachines to create themselves. That would explain why they're immortal and have a basic understanding of themselves as well as certain things like language and their powers. Maybe even the driver binding a blade is just someone making a request of the zohar. Those that are less attuned ether are unable to bind. Though I suppose that's not really accurate as noppon's are meant to be good with ether.

valkrieknights
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I'm french and I love your videos. In France thé communauty on the Xenoserie is extremely small. So I only watch English channels on the subject.:) So I sometimes have a hard time understanding. :'(

kasumi