Star Trek War : A Victorious Dominion

Hey Everyone, We take a look at a community tab request.. What if the Dominion had won the Dominion War - don't forget to vote in the weekly Community Tab Polls - let me know what you would like to see!

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[LoreReloaded]

Whats up everyone, for those interested.. Patreons and Discord Folks got this video early (Patreons earlier then those in the discord).. If you want to get stuff early - consider those routes.. Thanks for watching, look forward to ya'lls thoughts on the video ;)

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Data starts mass building himself, and ST Data begins. That tied with the voyager upgrades would keep races that have become damned near extinct out of much of the fighting. Also using the Voyager Holo doc systems for man power

[TheBigExclusive]

Good video but I think you underestimated two things. First, is that I believe *if* the Federation would be pushed to the breaking point, then all the banned secret weapons, and time-travel technologies that the Federation (and Section 31) had locked up would suddenly be put into use. They wouldn't let the Federation fall. Maybe they just use a couple Genesis Devices on key Dominion worlds. Or, I could totally see them traveling back in time to prevent the Dominion from ever winning.

Second, is Gul Dukat. I believe it was hinted at that in the show (particularly in the comics, and books) that Dukat had plans. In particular to discover the secret of the Jem Hadar, . I can see Gul Dukat taking over production of "Alpha Quadrant" Jem Hadar that would be loyal to Cardarssians (and ultimately himself). Cardassians would be the new "Founders". Gul Dukat would "Order 66" all his enemies and take over leadership.

[SpinoEarth]

No one attacks my homeworld and lives!! Earth, Qo'nos and Romulus above all!

[ContemporaryCompendium]

I've always wanted to see a heavily militarized Federation fleet, even though it would go against what the Federation stands for. However, this wouldn't be about revenge. It would be about survival. The Dominion would get to see firsthand the oft-underestimated power of the Human spirit and tenacity.

[philgutierrez]

You have forgotten the biggest factor; the Borg. They came to earth to change history and still would. No federation defenses left so they would succeed and the federation not being born but the Borg assimilating earth, the founders would need to rethink their plans and worry about losing to them.

[scarface]

In other words, a Star Trek Battlestar Galactic.

[assemblyrequired]

I think that the Starfleet leaders tasked with protecting the core worlds would be VERY tempted to make the Dominion pay for every inch of space close they made it to Earth and such. If Starfleet Intelligence knew that the Founders would likely commit genocide after the war, that makes it all the more likely, since they are already dead anyways.

The Andorians, being a warrior race, would probably totally be on board for this plan, while the Vulcans would be more for trying to find a way to preserve Federation culture in some way.

I think that in the end, there would be a compromise between the two, where a fleet of starliners, and explorers and surveyors such as the Galaxy, Ambassador, Andromeda, Renaissance, Nova, Intrepid, Nebula, and maybe a few Sovereign class starships are secretly sent away from Federation territory. Maybe a few Oberths might be given instructions to just make a break for it too. Not all of them, mind you, but just enough that they could fool everyone into thinking they went missing or were destroyed. Any explorers that were on 5 or more year missions that hadn't made it back home yet would be discretely transmitted instructions for to them to stay away from the Federation, and if possible, rendezvous with the outbound fleet.

I see the Federation perhaps trying to use the time it takes for the Jem'Hadar ships to travel to Earth to fortify their defenses, and protecting Sol with a viciousness similar to the Battle of Britain. Same thing for attempting to build more orbital defenses for member planets, making them harder to take.

In the mean time, every shipyard in the Federation would be commandeered, and be pumping out Akiras, Sabers, Defiants, Norways, and Steamrunners like never before, if only to keep up appearances. Civilian ships might be modified to fight, either by their owners along the lines of the Rebel Alliance, or because Starfleet commandeered them, or both. Any that are captured by the Dominion could be programmed and rigged to self-destruct the moment their sensors detect any Jem'Hadar or Vorta anyways. But there is the possibility that morale would drop to the point that officers even start to abandon their posts.

And the Jem'Hadar would also likely encounter resistance similar to the Nazis with the Marquis, though I don't expect them to have much success. Once the Jem'Hadar have

[FireRevanShadow]

I don't think you can count on the federation fleet that left. In season 3 of Enterprise, we saw a human fleet go and make a new colony. I think history tends to repeat itself, especially in star trek. I think the fleet would run for decades and settle down and make a new federation elsewhere. Coming back would put in jeopardy the civilians they had. Oh and the klingons would be assimilated into this new Federation.

[allnamesaretakenful]

I'm really looking forward to the next video.

[jacobkleinsasser]

Issue with Quark's price of freedom idea. Historically it has never been true. During stalemates neither side would attempt to achieve peace because in a stalemate you aren't winning, but you aren't loosing. Peace is at a premium when 1 side holds a distinct advantage.

[Lukos]

The Pah' Wraiths. They could close the wormhole at the cost of one single person. A host to carry them to the wormhole. But that still wouldn't address the Dominion's war machine. They would have stripped entire systems to build their fleets by then. Entire populations enslaved to build their ships. A simple military victory would likely be unattainable. They would need to find a way to tear the dominion apart from the inside. If they had access to Voth technology they could simply transwarp to the founders home world and release a more immediately lethal virus to kill them off entirely.

The Dominion is top heavy. Without the founders to keep everything running they crumble. The Jem Hadar are barely controllable even with the founders constantly holding their hands and they and the Vorta hate one another. The death of 90% of their population would leave the founders in the alpha quadrant vulnerable and isolated. Their relatively small populations would be easier to find and poison. But it would be most effective if it happened everywhere at once.

[gusngregg]

The Dominion wins but the founders died.
GO!

[QuintMarvel]

Honestly, when you said the part where Humanity would be affected by the Blight, I shuttered. The idea that the Dominion would engineer the death of the species is genuinely disturbing.

[FireRevanShadow]

What about making Klingon/jem'hadar hybrids to make a more improved soldier?

[jaybeebee]

Interesting. I'll go through what I feel are holes, the rest I agree with.

1) You don't make explicit, around the 1:00 mark, that it's the Prophets/Wormhole Aliens failure to intervene that is the hinge point in your AU, I had to intuit that from a replay;

2) I find it unlikely that a post-victory Dominion would either have to kidnap further humans for their anti-Homo Sapiens plague virus, as it's likely the Changeling impersonating Bashir sent his people a complete map of the human genome and that they had several hundred, if not thousand human prisoners to experiment with, or that they'd need to be covert about it, as by that time they had conquered the planet anyway.

3) Dominion racial structure policy has already shown in the GQ they prefer to parcel skills unevenly across cloned servant races, this makes sense as we have seen Vorta make excellent military etc but lousy troops, with little physical strength or visual acuity. Jem'Hadar of course are excellent fighters but struggle badly with engineering/sciences. Almost a blue vs white collar split. Now imagine if some renegade JH or Vorta possessed BOTH sets of skills; any uprisings would be extremely dangerous. You would therefore not want clones with human ingenuity, plus Tellarite science skills, plus Vulcan intellect/physical strength, just one gone astray could wreak immense damage, possibly catastrophic.

4) I don't see what use the Dominion would have for humans; as above humans only unique selling point is creativity, and frankly it's arguable whether there is much unique about ours. I think Weyoun is correct, and that the Founders would agree; unless you have since stabilised the cloning process so that exceptions are a one in a million, not one in a thousand, humanity is more of a pain in the ass than it's worth (if you've just conquered it), and they order that the Blight, instead of keeping us for generations in suffering, kills us in 2 hours, 2 months after the first infection. Other GQ races we've seen are allowed to work, trade and play, so long as they don't misbehave, lest they get a visit from the JH. Not us, though. Given the human spirit and its ceaseless appetite for resistance, dissidence and indeed all forms of contrarianism, the risk-reward ratio is hugely stacked AGAINST keeping us around, cloned/ modified or not. The Dominion simply creates billions of Vulclones who logically believe (and frankly the logic would be hard to counteract) that might makes right, and the Founders as conquerors of TWO Quadrants are rightful masters of all territory.

5) Given the extreme adeptness of the Founders at etc, their ability to mass-produce ships/Vorta/JH at terrifying speeds, and how poorly the Tal Shiar failed to insulate itself in the events leading to their near-destruction in the Battle of the Omarion Nebula, it is extremely unlikely that piecemeal assassinations of Vorta and random destruction of JH warships would either produce significant weakening, nor is it likely the saboteurs would live long enough to continue gnatting away at the Dominion Elephant in the Room.

Other than those 5 I am in agreement with you. I think the wildest cards, and therefore meat for future videos, at this galactic game of Poker are in the hands of the Borg, and S31. I'd also love to see a video speculating on what an Earth looks like if the Dominion actually did decide to keep humanity around.

[TheMrPeteChannel]

One thing is forsure. The Borg will definitely take interest is the Dominion since they defeated the Federation. The Federation being the Borg's most tricky enemy.

[Quake_VODS]

I feel like Voyager's fleet would act like the Rebel Allience and the Dominion like the Empire

[isfj]

How about this -

Starfleet would make a deal with the Klingons - Romulans would be on their own. The carrot to elicit cooperation from the Klingons? Starfleet would share some technology (weaponry and shielding) it acquired from its encounter with the Cytherian civilization and the Voyager's encounters with the Borg and Species 8472 in the Delta Quadrant. The Klingon military would fall back deep within Klingon space to rebuild it's fleet. However, with Dominion presence becoming heavy in what was Federation space, Starfleet took a different approach - using Graviton technology received from the Cytherians, Starfleet would transport its armada light years away, within the Delta Quadrant. I would imagine it would take less than 3 years for Starfleet and the Klingons to develop an armada of ships fully capable of taking on the Dominion in the Alpha/Beta Quadrant. And in an all-or-nothing campaign, armed with highly advanced Borg tech, Cytherian tech, and tech brought back by future Admiral Janeway, the Klingons and Starfleet armadas would win engagement after engagement against the Dominion; the Klingons along the perimeter of Dominion space and pushing in, and Starfleet, using their Graviton jumpdrives, to establish multiple jump points deep within Dominion space and severely fracturing is military presence.

[thomasn]

Towards the end of the final season, I heard about a "surprise ending" for the series.  I though it would be the Tamarians entering the war against the Dominion and helping destroy them.  Since a single Tamarian ship kicked the hell out the Enterprise in one-on-one combat in the Darmok episode, they seemed like a potential powerhouse race to align with.  The "surprise" turned out to be the Cardassians rebelling en masse against the Dominion.