CFR 1/31 Academic Webinar: China-Russia Relations

Thomas Graham, distinguished fellow at CFR, and Zongyuan Zoe Liu, Maurice R. Greenberg fellow for China studies at CFR, lead the conversation on China-Russia relations.


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[jiajingyang]

This channel on China has gone nuts. Just because you invite someone who is ethically Chinese doesn’t make her a China expert, in fact she left China a long time ago and hasn’t lived there recently. She actually knows old China. The dated version

[randomdude]

9:05

I couldn't be more intrigued to hear more on China's relationship with China.

A complex and multi-layered relationship this must be.

[oxgsklf]

zongyuan left China and doesn't understand China except the old China in her mind when she left. nowadays my friends are encouraging kids to study abroad in Russia. I didn't understand what she was saying when she said Chinese didn't want to go to Russia. This is the problem when you have "Chinese" people who left China a long time ago talking about China

[Telemed]

This was an excellent discussion about China-Russia relationships and their global strategies. Although Russia does not have access to the massive datasets needed for machine training in AI, it does have a strong culture of software engineering that may eventually enable the country to be competitive in this domain. I would add that as a retired professor at Michigan, I would reinforce Zoe's comments that many Chinese prefer to send their students to the U.S. for university, with the understanding that their children may serve as a anchor to bring other members of their families the opportunity of emigration to the U.S. I do not see any push for Chinese students to attend universities in Russia.

[steveguynup]

How active are Chinese & Russians in each others internal politics. Can they influence who succeeds Xi or Putin?

[punkrachmaninoff]

Imagine this scenario:

China annexes the Japanese Senkaku Islands (they have already built enough islands and garrisons in the area) using the justification of anti-NK aggression. They do this without firing a shot. Japan doesn't like this nonsensical interpretation of the map, and they try to remove the CCP from their territory, triggering a catastrophic panic in the bond and security markets. Damage done, cheese slicer or no cheese slicer.

We are more vulnerable to this kind of horseplay than we are in a hot war (that is if we can keep up with modernization and daily artillery estimates).

[jimbopeebles]

Loved this discussion. I really look forward to mending the relationship between China and the west despite ideological differences. Russia is the major outlier here.

[gstlb]

China has designs on Russian territory that was china’s.

[isabellaliu]

I think your explanation is a bit exaggerated because Russia isn’t the the old Soviet Union the total gdp of Russia only equal to one province of China, so their coalition isn’t really a threat anymore economically. The only threat is the military power that Russia still has nuclear weapons but is far behind America or even China.

[colinadevivero]

Her delivery is rambling and pointless