EV v petrol challenge: Reacting to your angry comments about our road trip!

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Intro: 00:00
Don’t add weight 01:07
Wrong cars 01:53
It’s a BMW ad 04:12
We did the trip wrong 05:12
Did it for the clicks 09:33
We charged it wrong 10:08
We chose the wrong route 13:39
Outro 15:30

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CarExpert:

Paul Maric:

#ev #roadtrip #reaction

[PurplePandaGuy]

Some people on the internet will just complain without watching the video

[SS-ywvo]

Arguing with idiots is a futile exercise

[Seafury]

Absolutely agree with all your statements paul, people just dont watch the video fully or just look at the headlines. Appreciate that you actually respond and in someway shutdown all those critics!

[JoeAchilles]

Hope all these upset and angry people (watching free content) find happiness in 2024 ❤

[andyg]

By not counting the initial full “tanks” and instead do in reverse and fill up on way you have skewed this result in a big way. A lot of people in Melbourne are on EV electricity plans. Where they can charge overnight for cheap or even during 11am-2pm for free. Even if overnight at 8c kWh it would have cost $8 to fill the bmw from 0-100%. That would significantly change the results and put the EV way ahead as you would only need to add the Tarcutta charge to work out the costs to get to Sydney. Making it less than the cost of the petrol version to get from Melbourne to Sydney. Same thing in reverse. Whilst it costs more to go from Sydney to Melbourne when you get home you can charge it back up at very little cost.

So the real costs that you failed to mention would be ICE return trip $235.75.

EV. 406kWh for return trip. 100% charged at home on off peak plan $8.
Fast chargers 226kWh at 65c per kWh some chargers cheaper but let’s go with normally most expensive. $146.90
And then finally arrive home at 20% and charge 80% at home $6.40.
So total EV cost $161.30

So $74 cheaper for the EV by using a real world example instead of the strange scenario you did of filling up with a fast charger at home, which is not a realistic example of how majority of EV users would charge their car.

[geevee]

I'm glad you didn't artificially weigh down the car. That way it shows the tradeoff in design.

[kingjnr]

As an owner of a Volvo Ev I 100% agree that an Ev can’t be bet for local commuting and charging from home. For longer distances I’ll take my LR3 V8 over the Volvo every time! Great comparison video Carexpert!👍🏻

[Nerdificationing]

I think the issue with the test (and peoples responses) was: it measured one element of car ownership: road trips. Then the EV and non-EV camps waged war. I think the SAME test but for a few day to day scenarios would be great. e.g. Day to day commute + weekend chores - scenario 1 access to charge at home, 50km a day in the 2 BMWs. Scenario 2 - No access to charge at home, as above.
Etc. Comparing these will likely reveal EV is victorious and then add some balance to the discussions.

[LACOS]

I drive model 3 and the comparison video was fantastic in my opinion!
My friends wanted to buy an EV just because I have it and some others have it. I went through lots and lots of calculations to justify the extra cost it involves buying an EV to a comparable petrol car. The video shows the limitation of an EV that future buyers need to understand. Thank you Paul and the team for an amazing video!

[warwickcathro]

No experienced EV driver would charge their car that way. We do a modest bit of planning, we use apps like ABRP, and we make sensible use of lower speed destination chargers.

[peterwest]

Haven't watched the test yet but this ep sadly seems to confirm to me that level of intelligence in Australia is on the wane.

[vernonhampton]

Paul, the fact that you are able to maintain a sense of professionalism and joviality with comments from absolute f**kwits is astonishing...you have my respect!

[joed]

A lot of keyboard warriors who think they are "experts" with no credentials. Keep doing what you are doing Paul and team!

[redgod]

It'd be good to repeat with more ev / ice pairs to see if it's a consistent outcome. MG HS, Hyundai Kona etc are both ev and ice options

[supertaufiqr]

LOL this is a good video Paul!
Maybe you can do a video on the Hyundai Konas? Petrol/Hybrid/Electric

[Brendan]

With the reduction in petrol and increase in charger pricing it would be interesting to see you recalculate with the current rates.
Clearly the gap would widen but it would be interesting to know by how much.

[dmhboag]

In our experience, being a bit older, the days of driving till you drop have gone, the EV long distance trip dovetails perfectly with our lifestyle, we don’t care about stopping as it matches our need for sustenance and emptying our bladder etc, usually 1 stop for the day and charge at overnight stop, works out to 5 hours more on a trip than ICE from Sunny Coast to Cairns, take a chill pill and enjoy the ride. 😜

[fatplumber]

I thought it was a reasonable real world comparison. As he said most people don't have time to spend an hour planning the route and taking painful detours

[vasil]

Ok, let's believe that you guys are not biased and that you didn't chose a scenario that was tailored to benefit a petrol car, a scenario which people may only experience once in their lives, maybe. Can we now see a test from you guys which covers the kind of driving that the vast majority of people do 99.9% of the time, which is urban diving with the occasional shorter country drive? Keep the cars over the space of a couple of weeks and only charge the EV at home, please.

[lesmajoros]

Just drove Sydney - Melbourne and return on the long weekend in our new BYD Dolphin.
Found the experience to be totally different to yours.
Charging was far cheaper than petrol. We avoided Tesla chargers as non Tesla drivers pay a hefty premium.
Tesla is 95c per kw whilst BP is 60c and Chargefox / NRMA is 45c.
Our cheapest charge was $11 and our most expensive $27.
We charged when we wanted to stop for food, coffee, toilets etc.
Despite being the long weekend, we did not have to queue for a charger anywhere.
No need to charge more often than that and previous experience with petrol cars had us fuelling just as often. The only difference being that our petrol refuels we’re always above $60.
Charging usually finished about the same time we finished eating. So no extra waiting time there.
Doing the sums, the same petrol trip in our Kona would have costed double in fuel.
Am I living on a different planet?
Or, unlike your video, avoiding Tesla chargers made all the difference?