RedHat Responds to The Open Source Community about RHEL..

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[guilherme]

Red Hat managed to piss off the community even more than Canonical, and that's saying a lot.

[noam]

Repeat after me.

It doesn't matter what they say. What they do only matters.

[unklebonehead]

The quote they used in the side bar is extremely telling about what their intentions are.
Protect the company above all else. Open source is not only their fuel for their engine but it's also their hindrance to their destination.
The whole point of Open source is to allow anybody to use & modify the code for their own personal use. Depending on the license is only where you have or are supposed to share those changes back. There are different licenses for a reason.

[LuisDiaz-qgeg]

The full source to be available to rebuild was only possible while there weren't massive corporations piggybacking the effort without the massive burden of testing packages, in a world where "Amazon Linux 1" and "Oracle Linux 8-9" exist, the decision by RedHat is understandable, this is probably not about Alma/Rocky

[slalomsker]

Sounds like someone comes from corporate Open Source and doesn't unterstand Free Software. The GPL license that made all this Open Source possible, says nothing about upstream, it only regulates how you need to behave towards the downstream.

[travis]

Everything they say is totally fine... for a closed source company. You can't have it both ways, you can't do this, and call yourself open source.

[TheJoBlackos]

I was not surprised. Those who warned us while IBM acquired RH had it all good. Since then, RH proved them right over and over. This was the last stone they just laid out on the paywall and most of us are right to be pissed off. What probably makes things even more painfully is that RH keeps saying it is not what it looks like ...

[wChris_]

Let me translate the quote says for you: Red Hat is afraid they will loose revenue from -unmodified- clones of RHEL, they are also kinda alluding to the fact that if RHEL is being cloned that they will stop to produce it and stop as a company all together.

[ozoak]

Combine the threat with the paragraph preceding it; it is a call to arms for commercial entities using open source to follow Redhats lead and restrict access. They are looking for safety (from criticism) in numbers.
Also, could they do any better to demonstrate that RH no longer understand the basic principles of open source?

[severgun]

Quote is reference example of manipulation.
He try to make you feel that you are criminal. And only BECAUSE OF YOU open source under threat.

[ronaldronald]

R.H. Is done. R.H. unequivocally proofed they can not be trusted. As a business trust in your I.T. vendors is crucial. It is a sad turn of events.

[hescominsoon]

so by ibm's logic ubuntu would be a threat to debian and then the derivatives of ubuntu would be a threat to debian and ubuntu. IBM simply doesn't want to "loose" any sales for downstreamers.

[zparihar]

How many billions are they making now? A lot of us IT consultants and directors of IT are still moving to the Debian ecosystem... I'd like to see more consulting companies like TUXCARE to sort Debian so we can move over to them.

[esra_erimez]

RedHat has completed their journey to irrelevance

[jrgepereira]

I believe this is all about Oracle Linux

[motionthings]

The repackaging and selling is probably Rocky and Alma

[DarkAvatar]

Seems like a sensible response, and from what i understand, the gripe is with companys using Rocky and Alma linux instead of buying RHEL, you know, the actual product that they are selling and adding that code for, not with the common user for which Fedora exists

[michaelm]

I think that Red Hat forgot the basic rule. Don't put out fires with gasoline. Or, if you're walking on eggshells, don't hop. Funny thing is, aside for angering the community for decades to come, Rocky and Alma have found their ways to go on. So in the end, RH didn't solve it's problem at all, but they did shoot themselves in the foot. I'm happy to report that after RH embraced, extended and extinguished CentOS, I switched my servers over to Debian instead. And I'm NOT looking back. Neither will many, many others, especially in the long run.

[pokeysplace]

Following the CentOS announcement a year or so ago the company I support dropped all Dead Hat related activities. Sad, I remember meeting the original 4 when they had to car pool to install fests in VA.

[teosfikas]

Ok correct me please if I am not mistaken because I don't see the catastrophe mostly talked about. Don't get me wrong this is in no way ideal but doesn't Suse do the same ? OpenSuse is open sourced "sponsored" by Suse mostly working as fedora to RHEL. Doesn't Suse only provide Suse enterprise only to it's customers the same way red hat wants to do ? ( I may not be accurate ). There is no corporation that is non profit, there is no corporation that works out of the bottom of their good hearts and will. For developers the code and distro remains available. I would think that the change mostly wants to slow down Oracle's downstream of RHEL although even that remains to be seen. This is a huge blow to Alma and Rocky of course, but RH did what everyone else already does but also open sources fedora and the CentOS stream. I am not a RH funboy in any means, what I am trying to end with is " why we expected RH to be that different from other enterprise Linux corporations ?". Corporation using enterprise Linux in my opinion should pay for it. They make money through it's development. If they don't want to, maybe starting further supporting and developing for debian is a call that shouldn't go to voicemail.

Again, I might be wrong with some stuff or point out if I am missing the picture.