Baku GP Talking Points - Failures and Shenanigans

The race in Baku was a Verstappen domination, with Ferrari failing and no one else getting close. There was interesting strategic choices at play, shenanigans on Saturday and a lot of back pain on display.

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[shaunlevin]

I like how Ferrari fans are saying the championship is over while Red Bull fans are saying that it's not. Ferrari fans are so used to their team disappointing them that it's kinda sad.

[CoLiC]

Alonso is simply the spell-checker for FIA when they write their rulebook.

[shaunlevin]

I feel like with the porpoising issue the FIA needs to get involved, but raising the minimum ride height is not the way to fix it. They should make it so that teams cannot race if their drivers experience a certain amount of g's or set a limit on the amount that their cars can porpoise. If you are in violation of that then you are forced to raise the ride height.



This doesn't punish teams that have gotten it right and it punishes teams that prioritize performance over driver safety *cough cough* Mercedes.

[jonathankohut]

I think the only fair rule change in relation to porpoising is to regulate how hard and how often the cars are allowed to bounce. Similar to how wing flex is regulated. This means that teams that have minimized the issue aren't punished

[charamia]

I've made this comment too many times now, but... Quick throwback to USA -05 when the Michelin runners were basically told 'it's the teams responsibility to bring the proper equipment'. And this is true. It is Mercedes' responsibility to give Hamilton a car he can safely drive. It would not be fair to bring in a minimum ride height that would 'punish' RedBull who have engineered around the problem better.

I've seen suggestions of having a vertical G-force ruling, which would limit the amount of porpoising allowed. This would force each team to account for drivers health and safety in whichever manner the team sees fit, without 'punishing' the teams who have engineered more stable cars.

[LeCharles]

On the whole "you body gets older faster than you think" is totally true. Stay active because motion is lotion for your joints and the older you get the harder it gets to restart.

[danielp]

Scarbs and Peter Windsor suggest a maximum g for proposing, with black and orange flag being shown for cars exceeding this limit. This forces teams to protect their driver and doesn’t punish the teams that have the bouncing under control.

[namenamename]

As much as a minimum ride height would help, it would unfortunately be grossly unfair to the teams that don't suffer from extreme porpoising and could safely run lower. They are losing lap time because other people haven't solved an issue.
Showing black and orange flags to cars with excessive porpoising could maybe work, but in the race and quali, it would probably be an end to the seas of the car because of Parc fermé, so this is also less than ideal

[jansenonline]

Regarding porpoising I really miss the option of an FIA regulation not about the car but about driver safety. If that is the goal of an FIA regulation, that should be it. So crudely said: teams are not allowed to race at such a ride height where the driver of the car is shaken more Than such and such. Use g forces, frequency, I don't know. But figure out what is hurting the drivers, figure out if it is damaging to them, cause there is a difference, and prevent that. Don't regulate the car specs to prevent this. That just isn't fair.

[benjaminwildeaudio]

love your stuff man! it's so nice hearing a level headed look after each race, especially if you accidentally glance at Twitter every once in a while

[MongoJoe]

Never thought I'd get a Khia reference in one of your videos but I love it. 😂 Gotta protect their necks and their backs (and other things).

[gerardotrejo]

I like the idea of the teams fighting not only against each other but also against the budget cap, if they keep the limit as it is, I think that will make the second part of the season very interesting.

[AyyFuji]

The best solution I’ve heard/ seen, is Scott Mansell and Craig Scarborough’s idea in Driver61’a recent video, and that’s to set a maximum G force applied during porpoising (just say 1G for example) that the teams can’t exceed. If they do, FIA notifies them that they need to reduce it, maybe figure out how it can work with Parc ferme, and boom, problem solved. Teams that don’t suffer from porpoising don’t get hurt by others being helped out, or setting minimum ride heights, so everyone is at the same level, and teams that haven’t gotten their cars sorted have to run their cars safer until they can reduce porpoising. Every other idea feels to cheap for teams who have it bad, they get a free ticket to better performance, without actually doing anything, and the teams who have it under control don’t gain anything since they aren’t suffering with it. Makes the most sense to me

[mscbijles]

Best solution to the bouncing problem I think:
Mandate vertical g-force sensors and a maximum force to be recorded from the bouncing. All cars should comply, but those that control porpoising the best, won’t lose too much. Maintains both the technical challenge and the drivers’ health as a key factor.

[Thisismostdefinitelyausername]

I disagree with your opinion on Horner's comment. Every team in F1 will push for the tiniest marginal gain. Politics is just another avenue for that. To imply that other team bosses are less ruthless or more honest just rings naive to me.

[ShiftyWombat]

Even though I watched the race and have all kinds of videos pop up about this information, I will always watch your analysis. Great presentation as always

[dyssil]

I just wanted to let you guys know that as a very novice F1 fan, this is the most informative and educational channel I have found. Thank you and keep up the good work.

[Riptide_Rides]

We miss you!! Hope all is well, I'm looking forward to the next video!

[Zestric]

I think there needs to be some aspect of the bouncing that we can measure and then mandate that it not exeed some value.
In a way regulating the bouncing out of the cars without one blanket change that all the teams have to implement.
I imagine this sort of like the specs the helmet regulations provide. Basically achieve "property x" to be accepted but how you achieve that is up to the teams.

[SamGreeneRacing]

It’s somewhat ironic that the main porpoising victim is the same pair that dominated in the last regulation set. Hamilton and Mercedes benefited massively from getting the last rule set right and essentially called on everyone else to do the same rather than change the rules.

Now they’ve botched this set up and want rule changes when other teams have gotten it right. They designed the car, they can fix it.