From React To HTMX

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[ArkhKGB]

20 years to go from HTML generated by the server with some JS for interactivity to GUI programing in pure JS back to HTML generated on the server with some JS.

Time is really just a circle.

[fiery_transition]

The more you understand the more impressed you get by simple stuff, because in reality, there's so much complexity underneath everything, it's awesome

[sadboisibit]

I love the take on browser developers vs server developers. Where I work we are split into "web developers" and "software engineers" (aka back-end). I'm the only full-stack developer in the department. It is so painful to see people in their respective camps hyper focused on their small slice of a project. They can't see how their actions/inactions effect the devs on the other side of the fence.

[mentotong]

I was able to dev a software that acts as if a SAP by just using HTMX with django... No Frontend framework... It works wonders

[asadbhimjee]

@15:24 totally hit the nail on the head. I'm laughing with you but crying on the inside because it's a struggle to make dev-friends with a busy life working part-time in a warehouse while looking for a dev job after graduating boot camp while trying to support my family (wife + 3 year old + one incoming) while keeping the house from falling into chaos living with parents while trying keep my passion for coding from burning out. Life's hard but it doesn't have to suck!

[laughingvampire]

Apple has had the Hypercard since the 1980s, Carson based HTMX on the Hypercard, and Apple had the opportunity to have had revolutionized browsers before Brendan Eich ruined them with JS. But they were to busy going bankrupt in the 1990s and trying to get Jobs back.

[repotranstech]

I have microfinance system in Django and htmx.A life saver, dont have time to manage react complexity, when i have more important things on the backend, like ledgers, accounting and api integrations.😊😊

[TheChillBison]

This was a great video reaction. I sense fresh air from the HTMX direction that is exciting. Having built sizable projects in Ember (long time ago) and then Angular (still maintaining that one), *not* having a front-end framework seems wonderful.
Also, I love how surprising and abrupt the signoffs here are!

[ccj]

Between this and Rust, this is one of the most exciting times for me as an engineer. Anything that shortens the amount of time that I have to work with React as a massive win in my book. So glad Prime is shining light on these things for me, I can't wait to start my next project.

[JeyPeyy]

I can't imagine getting 1 month to do a proof of concept at my job. Management won't even give me a week to do proof of concepts.

[danielvaughn]

Something indeed has happened to our brain lol. I get excited by stuff like this, but then I check out what's going on in the game dev world and I see Lumen and Nanite, crunching trillions of polygons at 60FPS...and I feel sad.

[y_arml]

it would be cool if htmx gets standardized and supported by browsers so that there would be no need even for that little js that sends and receives parts of the page cuz the browser takes care of it.

[iamlovishgarg]

Javascript going in every field, meanwhile getting kicked out from it's own house lol

[quelchx]

I'm waiting for developers to come full circle again and say in 10 years React is the way to go rather than just HTML and sprinkle of JavaScript

[DanielLiljeberg]

If a rich "offline experience" is a main concern.... you probably shouldn't be writing a webapp to begin with.

[namenamington]

Prime: "I'm not going 1.5x speed simply because since he's not obviously a native English speaker I don't want it to become too hard to understand him."
Me watching this on 2x speed: "Good choice."

[rudzon]

I've got PTSD attack looking at those '{%'

[TMRick]

R is my main language and I honestly don't feel confident when dealing with JavaScript. On my job I developed some Plumber APIs (API implementation with R, very similar syntax with Express) that already delivers HTML buffers as a response to the requests. Being able to integrate this with HTMX is just a god's gift for me.

[MichaelButlerC]

I think I just might have to jump in to HTMX as an old backend/fullstack head that never really fully jumped into the React/VUE.js land. I love how you can actually use HTMX with the old skool style CDN <script tag inserted into your <head !

[wertigon]

I remember working on a website in 2010. PHP driven, so real old school. We used jQuery to a) provide IE6 compatibility and b) do some easier CSS selector magic.

I remember being VERY firm on using HTML classes to define functionality..Needed a table to be sorted? table class="sortable".

We also used #section-id to update a specific section - and if you had JS turned off the page would actually reload and go to that place!

All in all the content took up less than 30kb of client side code and another 300kb of images. It was glorious.

PHP backend was a template nightmare though 😁