Nio EL8 test drive part 2

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[davidfarrell]

The idea of buying a battery that suits you and being able to pay a fee to get the biggest battery for long journeys or holidays is such a good idea. Would protect the value of cars as you have options. Swapping to speed up charging seems over kill but getting bigger battery when you need it would be a huge benefit.

[L-tloo]

NIO is doing more than 75, 000 battery swaps daily on average. The number speaks for itself.

For customers, there are several advantages of battery swapping and I don't see any disadvantages:
- if you don't want to battery swap, then don't swap and use a charger instead
- comment - "If you go to the restroom while charging" - is one directional scenario and should be expanded with - "What if you do NOT go to the restroom". In that case, the battery swap is obviously superior. The vast majority of the people in the cities/towns do NOT go to the restroom at gas stations.
- 4th generation Power Swap Station (PSS) - total time (park, swap, exit) is 3-4 minutes
- 4th generation PSS supports driverless swapping
- 3rd/4th gen PSSs (will) have vending machines
- you can rent a high-capacity battery for longer trips

Besides, there are advantages for the community/environment:
- PSS supports grid balancing
- battery degradation is lower
- they started installing solar panels on the roofs of PSSs
- batteries can be charged during the night when electricity consumption/cost is lower
- each battery is carefully inspected after the swap

[Sanctum]

The reason why it sometimes takes time to start the swap process is because the station needs to flash the battery software to match your cars software version. So if someone has an older version on their car and refuse to upgrade this will cause them and others to have delayed swaps. It can take 10sec to 1min to flash the batteries. The 100b batteries have more memory to avoid this

[davidaparicio]

Hello mister

Where are the tests for the Zeekr 001, Polestar 3/4? All are currently available to test drive in Norway

[lukyluke]

There is quick connectors for the cooling. Similar to Tesla, but they did not implement the swap concept

[vhol]

Less than 5 min to change the battery is pretty great !

[silys]

NIO is the best Chinese EV brand out there.

[SomeoneAbstruse]

Are you gonna take a look at the renewed ET7 with the ET9 suspension when it comes to Norway? A quick experiences video would be nice, so we get your thoughts on the upgrade/update

[SpaceBound-]

They need to work on a way to make it so you can leave the car from any door during the swap. 😊

[perfectsoundpursuit]

Very good this mode, swaping battery, no problem with battery degradation.. I like that! 👍

[Leonfr_]

What is the sound system like? Meant to be very good!!

[colinwiseman]

Give me the ET7 with battery swapping and I'd keep my car until I die. 620 mile range today. What will we get 10 years from now with battery swap? 5-10 min to swap battery gives me time to pee and coffee. Yeah I like.

[Drgnrt]

Looking forward to see the 1k km challenge!

[raffaelerossi]

if you buy with baas is the monthly payment for the entire life of the car or does it have an expiry date what are you entitled to how many swaps + free energy?

[hassanj]

People will realise what alot of smart guyes figuring out, the problems of value, range and warranty is solved trough the leaseing of the battery.
Dont think it as expense but as insurence. You get cheaper inurence fee also, and a cheaper starting price. factoring in reduction of finance loan, if you need it
its a verry good for nio owners. Ask Tesla owners with out of warranty cars, its like getting molested.

[DouglasJMark]

Nio seems to have improved a lot. Good for them. I wonder if they are profitable yet?

[tommagnum]

Swapping is as expensive as hell and an ecological disaster. NIO itself claims that 1.2 to 1.5 batteries per car are needed, but I believe these numbers are heavily sugar-coated. This system, like battery rental, will not gain traction.

[Scrap-press]

Swapping >>>> Fast charging and it isn't close

[bohlrene]

While I really like NIO I do not like the battery swap for economical reasons - since the depreciation of the car must be taken by the amount of the car only, the rent will remain the same, thus depreciation will hit hard when selling the car. Same happened with the Renault Zoé with rental battery, hundreds sitting at the dealers since the battery rental cost is about the same as the leasing for a new Renault Twinto Electric - dealers are crying.

[zilla]

I don't really like that battery swapping. Takes a bit longer than 5 minutes and you need to stay in the car. If you go to the restroom after that, charging a modern 5C charging car would be faster because you only need to plug it in and then do your stuff.