War Thunder F-4J: Grinding Hell + Button Madness

Hello, A learning experience for me and I'm sure many others

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Chapters :
0:00 Intro
1:05 Stock Grind
2:20 100K To Be Useful
3:40 Vehicle You Face
4:20 Fun Destruction
4:45 Radar Mode
6:05 Too Many Buttons
7:30 Fatigue
8:40 Most Players Going Easy Mode
9:20 Bug With Too Many Buttons
9:50 Good Learning Experience
10:27 Stats
11:34 Bonus Relaxation

[TheEuropeanCanadian]

My brain is too slow to play stuff like this

[radosaworman]

Not without a reason flying phantom was a two man job.

[TheDoubleace]

It is my first Rank 7 jet I played and spaded. And oh boy, it was a struggle bus. It got a whole lot better when I got the AIM-7E2. Until I got it, I had to bomb bases, use Sidewinders to kill air and ground bots and occasional opportunistic AIM-9G kills.

[mab]

I've been playing Fox 3 battles, and its just too much things going on, kill stealing, missile after missile that seem to not STOP tracking even after notching and chaffing. Map sizes are too big to just die abruptly. Stock grinding is the another major nail on top of that. AI targets don't give good rewards, base bomb points don't respawn quickly, fighters are doing base bombing... just... we need a change.

[illegalaryan]

I have all my radar buttons on buttons on my mouse and use a macro for them, Radar Mode, Radar Scope Range, Radar Scope Scale, and HMD/ACM mode are the ones you need to have quick access to, I have IRST switch and gimble movements on other buttons. I like manually moving my radars gimble with the arrow keys and its tilt with right ctrl+ up and down arrow.
Holding C while flying while using the HMD mode is kind of challenging but it is used rarely if not in something like a Su27 or getting into closer dogfights, its never used at all on missile buses like the F15.

[bakunincervantes]

Thank you for covering this plane and explaining why this is not fun to play.

[yayaabc]

My first high tier jet :D
Absolutely love it! Around 650 battles. Almost used it exclusively to grind the f14a event. I once got killed by one which shot a Aim9D front aspect at me. I flared and it just ignored it my flares lol.

[ydkilla]

It takes a while to learn all of the buttons but what i found more frustrating is that the aim-7f in 50% of the matches it works normal but in the half it does always wird stuff

[Zealot]

I enjoy the F-4J. I dont think it ever gets better in terms of top tier gameplay. It's all radar management and set-up.

[MattXx]

i have the same issue with the million buttons that need pressing to deal with the radars on jets!

[hilapff]

Did you also get uptiered to 13.0 something like 8/10 matches? I'm stock grinding the F1C and it's a mess to get hammered by F-14 while the R530F are basically useless. Thankfully I just got the Magic 2...

[ccursedfool]

It's extremely difficult to manage your binds while having to focus on multiple targets. It gets worse the further you go up the BRs. It's absolutely terrible to manage up at 14.0 where nearly every match im trying to keep read on targets on my radar, launching weapons at targets, and simultaneously trying to evade missiles all at the same time. In sim battles it isn't as awful, but it's still a issue. Im not sure there will be a good way to fix it or at least alleviate the pressure.

[fredclark]

Trying to play any top-ish tier f4 is always going to be a struggle especially when you experience uptiers

[cheemgames]

The only way i got this thing spaded was, killing ai planes. Which first involved knowing when and where they spawned then sending all the missles i had at them. If you ever get late game and theres only one enemy left, you can ground pound with the 20mm. Until you get the E-2, that's the only way to get secured RP for that plane. Other than hoping people go head on and dont dodge your 20mm, or they dont notice your IR missles.

[dennis]

the struggle is like every damn rank seven plane in german tech tree

[liquidleopard]

Is the F-4J(UK) any worse than the tech tree F-4J? The premium seems to get more hate, but they have the same BR, and the UK Phantom gets a better gun pod.
After taking it for a test flight, the radar works *way* better than that of my F-4EJ. It can detect the target bots much farther away, and guide missiles to them... And the Skyflash turns to chase targets much better than my AIM-7E.

[sleepylab]

Im glad i spaded this plane before they added the f4S where the flare pods were located underneath the wings and not shooting out the top. I feel like thats one of the reasons why you cant flare magic 2s as easily.

[HELLASFORETERNITY]

Buying this yesterday was well surely an experience...

[raihanrusli]

I'd really love to spade this plane, but its stock is hell. Its not like you are fast enough to bomb bases, we only have quite horrible IR missiles too. Not to mention external factor like your teammates, which mostly going to be brainless F4S bombers. So even if you just want to farm AI, the enemy will start to pick you after all your allies got shot down.

Oh yeah I think there is also a bug where phoenix missiles dont trigger RWR right now, so playing in this BR isnt really safe (or is it a feature ? But I remember avoiding phoenix while my RWR screaming at me)

[AdaaDK]

Thx for this video, i considered grinding this for ground rb, (antiair) but this video showed me i shouldnt.. 😀 the stock grind would wear me out, i will keep suffering in the f4E at 11.7 in ground(since i already spaded it and it wasnt trash in air rb) and swap to the F16C/F18C-late, whenever i get my us stuff to 12.0+