Immanuel Kant on Gossip

#shorts Professor Ellie Anderson talks Immanuel Kant's view of gossip. Listen to episode 49 of Overthink for more on gossip!

[s.badart]

Glad this channel in doing shorts too, very intresting that the social contract goes into preserving secrects shared in a group setting

[brians]

Gossip is to highlight unacceptable behaviour to the listener. It is about learning. Absolutely try to limit and make it constructive and not so mean. Gossip won't go away so use it right.

[anonymoushuman]

The Kant quote brings to mind a line from the old t.v. comedy show Hee Haw: "You'll never hear one of us repeating gossip. So you'd better be sure and listen close the first time!"

It's of course impossible to confine the effects of the gossip, whether it occurs at a dinner party, a meeting of the committee on advancement and tenure, grade reviews, or what have you. The results can be literally maddening. The practice of cleverly hinting to the subject of the gossip, "I know something about you that you didn't tell me" is a kind of power play, whether the something in question is good or bad. It is learned behavior that can be unlearned. Professors, students, and administrators at all levels take heed!

[FriedZime]

My rule of thumb is that I try not to say anything about a person X that is not present that I wouldn't say if X was present. This rules out much bullshit talk behind other's backs that I wouldn't want others participating in about me behind my back.

[rpleeskater]

Kant also advocates for telling the truth at all times. I wonder if Kant lived with such a glaring contradiction, or if one of these two perceived truths is untrue

[jonber]

Well gossip has a social function in itself, regardless of the subject of the gossip. People speaking among themselves about others, are bonding each other.

It's quite obvious telling whats said, on to the subject of the gossip is a betrayal to the group. Therefore i suspect, Kant passes this revolutionary moral rule, on to us

[hannah]

Gossip is actually bad manners, and unkind. It's a proud stance, seeking justification and superiority and therefore also narcissistic. Everyone is guilty t it.

[operaguy]

I thought categorical imperatives were supposed to arise from the noumenal, not from some guy.

[tsinestexicthdauwraum]

Basically, you cant control what other people do or the autonomic mechanism of hearing so just dont go gossiping yourself and its all good?

[jithinjose]

Now I understand why Nietzsche hates kant.

[edwardhunt]

he’s attacking the superstitious gossip heard at dinner tables that is not really valid or reasonable to use against someone who cannot hear it. Like a tree being cut down with nobody to see. It’s not happening at the time or dimension. Taking the talk to another dimension on the flip side. Or introduced biased reasoning thats seen as sufficient. Kants a genius ! But it’s just all about slander. Some if its trivial and not material enough for anything but speculation like shopenhower does. With his theories about the world as a prison seen from a perspective of a Kantian perception//😅
Exactly why he calls it a critique and not a discussion or discourse.

[andraspeter]

Im pretty sure that what he meant was that you cannot give credence to gossip and therefore shouldn't replicate it outside of the circle that already heard it, as you would be spreading lies this way

[segunsong]

Is this part of categorical imperative? Not sure what this lady tries to do

[AllTenThousand]

So... what are you saying about gossip?

[Catholictomherbert]

I recommend doing a video on raditz and goku.

[timbuktu]

Gossip is awesome. Things I’ve heard at dinner parties have legitimately helped me make decisions that made me money or simply made my life a bit better. Just don’t repeat that stuff outside the dinner, yup.

[SK-legm]

Language itself emerged from gossip.
i’ll go further: all language is assertions. Every single sentence is an assertion, of varying and subjective truth-value and use-value. Gossip is one flavor of assertion, but soft-prohibiting it is akin prohibiting language itself. If you don’t want to be gossiped about, don’t do anything wrong… Be boring, is that the “categorical imperative” suggested here?

[lancevanarsdale]

I would say any gossip is gossip at all.

[DanielVodenitcharov]

What is the citation for this passage? I’m curious to read the surrounding context

[nawzadjamal]

I agree with Kant table conversion remains strictly in not otherwise.