This GPU crashes when a driver is loaded... But why?

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[tronman]

Want to see a part 2 with a teardown and examination of the card. This problem is too interesting to not get a definitive answer imo.

[OldBuford]

"this one of those demon cards where youre just like 🤷‍♂️" well it is 31 days of Jaytober

[PWNHUB]

AMD bought ATI in 2006, Bulldozer didn't exist til 2011. That looks to be a 5970 which is one of the best cards from its era.

[DctrGizmo]

It’s actually really interesting seeing you test old hardware like this!

[Traumbrecher]

Just a note that I'm sure you're already aware of, but the Windows auto-installing GPU driver in the background after a DDU is why the DDU instructions urge you to disconnect your internet connection prior to cleaning and rebooting (you need to have the driver installer pre-downloaded and waiting before you go into safe mode to run DDU). This way you can be 100% sure that the GPU driver installed is only the one you manually told it to install.

[jayparker]

Ok this video confirms it, Jay is omniscient because:
1) This week I needed to learn how to flash a BIOS because I converted my FTW3 to a hybrid and needed to convert it back but the prepackaged tool to revert back didn't work. This video would've been a great intro into the risks etc.
2) Months earlier I was building my first custom loop and Jay did a Water-cooling for beginners video with Corsair.
3) Also a few months ago I needed to understand if an OC on the 11900K would see any improvement vs a 10900K and Jay did a video on that as well.

Jay clearly is operating on a different plane of existence...

Keep it up though! The info has been invaluable and taught me so much!

[holyjewel]

I appreciate the appreciation for DDU. I was one of the earliest contributors when Wagnard (the creator) first posted about the program on Guru3d sometime in 2013 (I think it was 2013?). The guy was hated on big time, and nobody liked what he was doing, and to see how far he managed to take it, and to know that I was supportive and very involved in the code early on, and to now see it appreciated for what it is and for Wagnard to have had that success... It's nice to see.

[danielmoreno]

Pretty relaxing to see you diagnosing the GPU issue. I did recently lose my 760 to a GPU fan controller fault that made my graphics memory overheat and die. I was not as calm as you diagnosing that issue 😅

[kamihaap]

Oven it!!! My 770 windforce did the same thing and I “reflowed” it and still works like a charm…. Unfortunately haven’t been able to update my card now so I’m still stuck with that 😅

[uwejunghanns]

Hey Jay, the 770 (TI) / 780 (TI) are very likely to have a bad microBGA solder connection from the die to the substrate of the chip (not the substrate to the board).

You can circle the die with hotair at about 250-275°C for about 5 minutes and usually this fixes these cards perfectly. I did this to 2 or 3 of those cards and one was this specific one you have there iirc.

[karisalonen]

Great stuff. Troubleshooting and beyond repair are always interesting. Sometimes you just can't repair it (at least for a reasonable cost) and only way forward is replacing. The path to that is worth learning. Thanks!

[eskieman]

Jay, I enjoyed the troubleshooting you performed on this video card - learned a lot today!

[Zorgot.]

I love these troubleshooting videos, it’s fun and interesting watching your process on attempting to solve random computer problems, even if it doesn’t get fixed in the end

[stay-frosty]

Now this is content that resonates with me! Even if I don’t have an older card like this. This is the shit I stay subscribed to Jay for. Love it! Can’t wait for the next one.

[elliec]

Thankyou! I've been trying to fix a similar problem all weekend. Even though you didn't fix it was really cathartic to see the steps and thought processes you worked through.

[rashkavar]

These videos trying to diagnose weird shit that's gone wrong with a driver are so fascinating! Thanks for the video!

[Hdtjdjbszh]

I loved when GPUs looked like this! I really want UV reactive shrouds and fans to make a come back

[iamgates]

Man, that Jaytober bump is excellently done. Great sound fidelity on that - great spooky jingle. Actually, shout out to the whole production of this thing. You can tell you guys have been doing it for a long time now. Cheers :)

[juliasrodriguez]

Love the video, i have always been interested in troubleshoot techniques and its nice to see you doing these videos. Looking forward to seeing more like these

[hegemaniac]

Seems like a problem with the connection between the die and the substrate. This can happen, because the die and the substrate are made from different materials so they expand slightly differently under high temperatures and this causes tiny cracks over a long period of time.

Buildzoid made a video about this called "Rambling about chip degradation"